> is the Java version now a JVM language, like Scala and Groovy I guess so, ditto with .net and android -- that's what happens when a programming language crea

> is the Java version now a JVM language, like Scala and Groovy I guess so, ditto with .net and android -- that's what happens when a programming language creator, here Apple, specs out a language at the same time they implement it. Could be why Swift is getting many implementations whereas a language only paying lip service to the idea of a spec, say Groovy after Dec 1995, is still stuck on one impl.