> When I talk about "good reasons", I'm talking from the executives' point of view. It sounds like you're talking about some sort of universal good. I'm saying

> When I talk about "good reasons", I'm talking from the executives' point of view. It sounds like you're talking about some sort of universal good. I'm saying that there's what we want, which is an open web, which we shouldn't give up on, and there's what they want. All I'm talking about is understanding our opponents' incentives, and not assuming too quickly that it's just based on them making a mistake. Okay, it sounds like we're vehemently agreeing with each other. The thing is, these executives have done a very good job of controlling the discourse and making this a conversation about content ownership. But the fact is, there are only two possibilities here: 1. They are actually so stupid that they don't know DRM doesn't protect content ownership (which, I agree, is unlikely) or 2. They know that DRM doesn't work, but they don't want their real reasons for gutting the open web to be publicly known. What I want to do is make the conversation not about DRM any more, because it's clearly that DRM doesn't work. Given that, we should look at the possibilities for why companies might want EME on our computers. And you don't have to look very far into those possibilities to see that they're really scary, which underscores the need for a truly completely open web. In short, the DRM conversation makes companies who want to run their untrusted code on our machines as harmless idiots who just think that DRM will help their sales. But they aren't idiots, and they aren't harmless.