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One point not mentioned in the article: Sales Tax. Clothing is fully tax exempt in New Jersey. Bergen County is in very close proximity to NYC and plenty of p

by sheetjs 12y ago

One point not mentioned in the article: Sales Tax. Clothing is fully tax exempt in New Jersey. Bergen County is in very close proximity to NYC and plenty of people make the drive over to NJ (or take one of the buses from Port Authority Bus Terminal to Garden State Plaza) to save on sales tax, and the malls in Bergen County have pretty much every major brand that has a presence on Madison Avenue, so it's easy to save a pretty penny by going to NJ and purchase clothes. One of the big fears is that allowing Sunday shopping would increase traffic due to these shoppers.

JohnTHaller 12y ago
It's worth nothing that clothing under $110 per item (or pair for shoes, etc) are exempt from NY state and NYC sales taxes.
- JohnTHaller 12y ago
  ... and I realized after editing time expired that I wrote "it's worth nothing" instead of "it's worth noting". I sound so pessimistic now.
bko 12y ago
I grew up in the area. I don't think many New Yorkers come to Bergen County for the shopping. It would probably take about 2 hours to get to Garden State Plaza and require the subway and a bus. A much more convenient choice would be the Woodbury Commons as there are express buses from the city that take you to these large outlet malls. I imagine they service a lot of New Yorkers as well as tourists. I just don't think that people realize the true economic consequences of forbidding commerce on one day a week. No one wants to work on Sunday, or most other days for that matter. Nor do people want the traffic. What these people don't think about is the fact that not having the luxury to shop when you want hurts those that have a busy schedule or those that would like to to work on that day. It's crazy to think the bar for outlawing something is so low.
- lnanek2 12y ago
  I used to date a model who spent $5-10k a month on shoes and clothes. Saving sales tax could save a lot. Not that it would be saved, just spent on other things, of course.
- Spooky23 12y ago
  NYC != Manhattan. We grew up in Queens and did a lot of shopping in the route 17 area. Long ago, you used to be able to avoid some sales tax on cars as well. Hell, even today I know folks who'll hit the Apple Store in a low/no tax state like NH or Delaware on the way back from vacation. Personally, I liked the Sunday bans and reduced hours. So much of the retail workforce is part time, and that respite on Sunday (when malls close at 6) is appreciated by most.

by sheetjs 12y ago

JohnTHaller 12y ago

It's worth nothing that clothing under $110 per item (or pair for shoes, etc) are exempt from NY state and NYC sales taxes.

JohnTHaller 12y ago
... and I realized after editing time expired that I wrote "it's worth nothing" instead of "it's worth noting". I sound so pessimistic now.

bko 12y ago

I grew up in the area. I don't think many New Yorkers come to Bergen County for the shopping. It would probably take about 2 hours to get to Garden State Plaza and require the subway and a bus. A much more convenient choice would be the Woodbury Commons as there are express buses from the city that take you to these large outlet malls. I imagine they service a lot of New Yorkers as well as tourists. I just don't think that people realize the true economic consequences of forbidding commerce on one day a week. No one wants to work on Sunday, or most other days for that matter. Nor do people want the traffic. What these people don't think about is the fact that not having the luxury to shop when you want hurts those that have a busy schedule or those that would like to to work on that day. It's crazy to think the bar for outlawing something is so low.

lnanek2 12y ago
I used to date a model who spent $5-10k a month on shoes and clothes. Saving sales tax could save a lot. Not that it would be saved, just spent on other things, of course.
Spooky23 12y ago
NYC != Manhattan. We grew up in Queens and did a lot of shopping in the route 17 area. Long ago, you used to be able to avoid some sales tax on cars as well. Hell, even today I know folks who'll hit the Apple Store in a low/no tax state like NH or Delaware on the way back from vacation. Personally, I liked the Sunday bans and reduced hours. So much of the retail workforce is part time, and that respite on Sunday (when malls close at 6) is appreciated by most.