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Any idea what the typical wage for workers who get the tipped minimum wage is, after tips? I don't see a problem with the "NRA"'s position if those end up the

by swatow 12y ago

Any idea what the typical wage for workers who get the tipped minimum wage is, after tips? I don't see a problem with the "NRA"'s position if those end up the same as others after tips.

orangecat 12y ago
Right, my understanding is that they have to receive at least minimum wage when tips are included, and if not the employer has to make up the difference. Tipping as it's practiced today is awful for many reasons, but the minimum wage isn't one of them.
- arghnoname 12y ago
  This is strictly true, but when I waited tables I was told that if I ever claimed to make less than minimum wage with tips included (and thus force them to pay me more) I'd be fired. On more than one occasion, as a result, I made less than minimum wage. Paying taxes on income you didn't even get is especially awesome in that case.
  - swatow 12y ago
    When you say one occasion, do you mean one night, or one week, or longer? I ask because one possibility (and if I had to guess, I'd say this is the case), is that the vast majority of workers on the tipped minimum wage actually make more than the minimum wage after tips.
    - arghnoname 12y ago
      I was referring to single shifts where they overstaffed on a light afternoon so I didn't get many tables. Also, I didn't get very good tips compared to some of the attractive and personable young women I worked with. Generally we did make more than minimum wage after tips, especially if you considered a weekly or biweekly average. If I ever got stiffed on a table that would come out of my check, so my worst night was where I only had a few tables and got stiffed on a big one. I ended up paying to work that night since I needed to keep the job.
arjie 12y ago
If you live in CA (and some other states), don't sweat it. CA requires employers to pay full minimum wage irrespective of tips. http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm
droopyEyelids 12y ago
I think this would be extremely difficult to compute, because a server working in a fancy restaurant makes the same base pay as one working in a chain restaurant, but the tips will be orders of magnitude different.
droopyEyelids 12y ago
I think this would be extremely difficult to compute, because a server working in a fancy restaurant makes the same base pay as one working in a chain restaurant, but the tips will be orders of magnitude different.
BrandonM 12y ago
I was a server at Ruby Tuesday for years, where I made $2.85/hr plus tips. I averaged $8-20 per hour in tips (toward the higher end on weekends and holidays), but I was one of the better servers. The hourly wage only covered taxes.

by swatow 12y ago

Any idea what the typical wage for workers who get the tipped minimum wage is, after tips? I don't see a problem with the "NRA"'s position if those end up the same as others after tips.

orangecat 12y ago

Right, my understanding is that they have to receive at least minimum wage when tips are included, and if not the employer has to make up the difference. Tipping as it's practiced today is awful for many reasons, but the minimum wage isn't one of them.

arghnoname 12y ago
This is strictly true, but when I waited tables I was told that if I ever claimed to make less than minimum wage with tips included (and thus force them to pay me more) I'd be fired. On more than one occasion, as a result, I made less than minimum wage. Paying taxes on income you didn't even get is especially awesome in that case.
- swatow 12y ago
  When you say one occasion, do you mean one night, or one week, or longer? I ask because one possibility (and if I had to guess, I'd say this is the case), is that the vast majority of workers on the tipped minimum wage actually make more than the minimum wage after tips.
  - arghnoname 12y ago
    I was referring to single shifts where they overstaffed on a light afternoon so I didn't get many tables. Also, I didn't get very good tips compared to some of the attractive and personable young women I worked with. Generally we did make more than minimum wage after tips, especially if you considered a weekly or biweekly average. If I ever got stiffed on a table that would come out of my check, so my worst night was where I only had a few tables and got stiffed on a big one. I ended up paying to work that night since I needed to keep the job.

arjie 12y ago

If you live in CA (and some other states), don't sweat it. CA requires employers to pay full minimum wage irrespective of tips. http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm

droopyEyelids 12y ago

I think this would be extremely difficult to compute, because a server working in a fancy restaurant makes the same base pay as one working in a chain restaurant, but the tips will be orders of magnitude different.

droopyEyelids 12y ago

BrandonM 12y ago

I was a server at Ruby Tuesday for years, where I made $2.85/hr plus tips. I averaged $8-20 per hour in tips (toward the higher end on weekends and holidays), but I was one of the better servers. The hourly wage only covered taxes.