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Cold fusion E-Cat experiment ends explosively
- davidgerard 12y agoIt is worth noting that the E-Cat is the sort of thing that is not just unlikely, but blatantly fraudulent. It's claimed to work by adding hydrogen to nickel to make copper, a reaction so ridiculously unfeasible it doesn't even happen in supernova explosions. http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/12/05/the-nuclear-physics-of-why-we/ http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/12/05/the-nucle... http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer
- Geee 12y agoAlso worth noting is that the original invention is not by Rossi, but by Sergio Focardi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Focardi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Focardi
- gus_massa 12y ago> [...] or whether it was something simpler: hydrogen is involved so conventional explosions are always possible, and lithium aluminium hydride is pyrophoric, busting into flames in air. I didn't know this detail. So it has something that can act like a conventional chemical fuel inside the device. If the device allows entering a small amount of oxygen, the fuel will slowly burn and produce an unexpected excess of energy. [Another alternative is a plain fraud, but I still don't discard a combination of an excess of optimism and bad measurements and experimental designs.]
- dnautics 12y agoI'm going to keep repeating this. The negative control is to run the exact same experiment with deuterium instead of hydrogen. It shouldn't work. This experiment can easily be done even with Rossi's black box setup, and, as a blinded experiment if desired.
- grondilu 12y agoDeuterium is not quite as easy to get as hydrogen.
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- MichaelAO 12y agoRun a current through this for pure deuterium gas: https://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16_17_69&products_id=135 https://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&c...
- teamonkey 12y agoHmm. Well that link's certainly put me on a watch list or two.
- DennisP 12y agoHigh school kids run fusors on deuterium. It's not a big deal. It has all sorts of practical applications [0] and is easily extracted from seawater, where it makes up one out of every few thousand hydrogen atoms. (Of course these days there's no telling what irrational criteria might put you on a watch list.) [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_water#Applications http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_water#Applications
- lotsofmangos 12y agoAnyone who worries about going on a watch list should immediately be put on a watch list and this policy should be made completely public. Many common psychoses can be then avoided in society by making people fully justified in their personal persecution complexes.
- dnautics 12y agoYou could probably get a sufficiently sized tank for no more than $10k.
- GlennGary 12y agoThe processes of using Deuterium in Cold Fusion is different from that of regular Hydrogen. Cold Fusion is a whole field of science - so depending on what one wants to achieve there are different approaches. Want nano diamonds? add a bit of carbon on a wire of ferry - ala Celani For the latest "dog bone" technology, its not that easy, as to just use Deuterium Gas instead of Hydrogen Gas. You have to have nickel powder with the right properties- as Rossi has his own, one would have to fumble in darkness so the best approach is to just stick to something proven.