Totally. I think it depends on the group - especially group size. The intimidating standup I was describing was I think around 15 developers, mostly working on

Totally. I think it depends on the group - especially group size. The intimidating standup I was describing was I think around 15 developers, mostly working on separate issues. It worked for them because the majority were very self-starting, skilled devs. And I was speaking more to the general idea that OP shouldn't expect everything to bubble up to them automatically, because different people work and behave differently. Learning about that is an important aspect of being a manager.