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>No, it's prudent. Trigger the "tilt sensor" require a supervisory override. Call it uncalibrated operation. Now it's on the machine owner. Not your problem an

>No, it's prudent. Trigger the "tilt sensor" require a supervisory override. Call it uncalibrated operation. Now it's on the machine owner. Not your problem anymore. >Because once there is a pile of money on the line people tend to forget that they moved the machine. Fine, detect movement if you don't trust the owners (you shouldn't), stick it to the floor with a serial numbered bolt, whatever. Disabling the machine is a step too far. >They tend to be less knowledgeable about electronics Which makes them easy marks doesn't it? >btw, no need to waste time on bypassing it. It is pretty solid. We have to make it so Iran, N. Korea, etc's best can't bypass it. " /u/MoriGuy is a fool. Iran in particular has some very good schools, and no doubt could defeat this scheme in any number of ways. This is only hurting non-Iranian customers. >miniaturization and such work even for expensive gear. That doesn't mean it's suddenly much less expensive though Actually, it does. You may not be able to by them at Home Depot yet, but you can find them in tradesmen's tool kits, and in all manner of other uses that wouldn't be possible without relatively inexpensive equipment. >Note how that job posting is for a maintenance mechanic and not for a machinist? Pick ones that you like then. It was third in the list of results for me. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Laser+interferometry+millwright&t=lm https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Laser+interferometry+millwright&t=...

jacquesm 12y ago
> /u/MoriGuy is a fool. Iran in particular has some very good schools, and no doubt could defeat this scheme in any number of ways. This is only hurting non-Iranian customers. Tell that to US politicians. If the US demands that its trading partners make such machinery tamper proof you really can't go and blame the manufacturers for actually complying with those regulations and doing a reasonably good job of it. Whether or not it has the intended effect is not actually their problem. Agreed that disabling the machine is in some cases a step too far but having witnessed just how ugly these disputes tend to get in some cases it is actually a benefit because it puts a limit on the damage done. You're arguing for a 'warranty void' kind of sticker. But that would not take care of the worries of the lease companies (who are probably the biggest beneficiaries of this kind of lock-out mechanism).
- fnordfnordfnord 12y ago
  >Tell that to US politicians. Ugh. I think we can both agree that there are some problems here. I wish I knew how to go about solving them. >Whether or not it has the intended effect is not actually their problem. How far they go abusing their advantage, is. >You're arguing for a 'warranty void' kind of sticker. Not 'warranty void' pre se, but a 'we don't guarantee performance beyond some threshold without a factory certified calibration.' >But that would not take care of the worries of the lease companies (who are probably the biggest beneficiaries of this kind of lock-out mechanism). What a self-defeating tactic! Customer didn't make their lease payment; better make sure they can't make the next one either!

jacquesm 12y ago

> /u/MoriGuy is a fool. Iran in particular has some very good schools, and no doubt could defeat this scheme in any number of ways. This is only hurting non-Iranian customers. Tell that to US politicians. If the US demands that its trading partners make such machinery tamper proof you really can't go and blame the manufacturers for actually complying with those regulations and doing a reasonably good job of it. Whether or not it has the intended effect is not actually their problem. Agreed that disabling the machine is in some cases a step too far but having witnessed just how ugly these disputes tend to get in some cases it is actually a benefit because it puts a limit on the damage done. You're arguing for a 'warranty void' kind of sticker. But that would not take care of the worries of the lease companies (who are probably the biggest beneficiaries of this kind of lock-out mechanism).

fnordfnordfnord 12y ago
>Tell that to US politicians. Ugh. I think we can both agree that there are some problems here. I wish I knew how to go about solving them. >Whether or not it has the intended effect is not actually their problem. How far they go abusing their advantage, is. >You're arguing for a 'warranty void' kind of sticker. Not 'warranty void' pre se, but a 'we don't guarantee performance beyond some threshold without a factory certified calibration.' >But that would not take care of the worries of the lease companies (who are probably the biggest beneficiaries of this kind of lock-out mechanism). What a self-defeating tactic! Customer didn't make their lease payment; better make sure they can't make the next one either!