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I wonder how many would argue that Assange should "face the music" while simultaneously arguing that Snowden shouldn't.

alex_hitchins 12y ago
To my knowledge Snowden isn't wanted for questioning over an alleged rape... Edit : Why the downvotes? Edit 2 : Changed from "To my knowledge Snowden hasn't raped anyone..."
- madaxe_again 12y ago
  And to my knowledge neither has Assange. He has been accused of rape, which isn't the same thing as being found guilty of rape. I accuse you of being a pederast - therefore you should report yourself to the police? No? No. It doesn't work that way.
  - corin_ 12y ago
    It does work that way. If someone accused me of being a pederast/paedophile (acting not just medically) then I would very much expect the police to want to interview me, and either clear me of all wrong doing or prosecute if it was true. And that's how it should be. How else would anyone ever get convicted of a crime if they can just say "I'm not going near the police or a trial until I've already been proven guilty"?
  - alex_hitchins 12y ago
    I've edited my comment however still feels it validates the point. The Snowden and Asange cases are not one and the same.
- matthewmacleod 12y ago
  Well, they both pretty obviously committed crimes - if the respective accusations are true. So it's difficult to see the difference between "accused of rape" and "accused of release of classified information".
rmc 12y ago
Assange is wanted for crimes that are unconnected with his political activism is. Everyone is human, incl Assange, everyone can make mistakes. Don't think your heros are perfect, they might not be.
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- madaxe_again 12y ago
  Oh, I'm in favour of him having a fair trial for the crimes of which he's been accused. I'm not in favour of a wham bam thank you ma'am extradition and media pillory.
  - sago 12y ago
    Personally I'm in favour of him being extradited and charged under normal UK and Swedish law and treaties. I'm not in favour of the scale of the operation to enforce that, which I think is primarily a function of the accused's political status.
- jeltz 12y ago
  Many political prisoners around the world are locked up from crimes unrelated to their activism. It is a popular method for locking up your political enemies. Now I do not believe this to be the case for Assange, but seeking political asylum when faced with allegations of non-political crimes is normal.

To my knowledge Snowden isn't wanted for questioning over an alleged rape... Edit : Why the downvotes? Edit 2 : Changed from "To my knowledge Snowden hasn't raped anyone..."

madaxe_again 12y ago
And to my knowledge neither has Assange. He has been accused of rape, which isn't the same thing as being found guilty of rape. I accuse you of being a pederast - therefore you should report yourself to the police? No? No. It doesn't work that way.
- corin_ 12y ago
  It does work that way. If someone accused me of being a pederast/paedophile (acting not just medically) then I would very much expect the police to want to interview me, and either clear me of all wrong doing or prosecute if it was true. And that's how it should be. How else would anyone ever get convicted of a crime if they can just say "I'm not going near the police or a trial until I've already been proven guilty"?
- alex_hitchins 12y ago
  I've edited my comment however still feels it validates the point. The Snowden and Asange cases are not one and the same.
matthewmacleod 12y ago
Well, they both pretty obviously committed crimes - if the respective accusations are true. So it's difficult to see the difference between "accused of rape" and "accused of release of classified information".

rmc 12y ago

Assange is wanted for crimes that are unconnected with his political activism is. Everyone is human, incl Assange, everyone can make mistakes. Don't think your heros are perfect, they might not be.

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madaxe_again 12y ago
Oh, I'm in favour of him having a fair trial for the crimes of which he's been accused. I'm not in favour of a wham bam thank you ma'am extradition and media pillory.
- sago 12y ago
  Personally I'm in favour of him being extradited and charged under normal UK and Swedish law and treaties. I'm not in favour of the scale of the operation to enforce that, which I think is primarily a function of the accused's political status.
jeltz 12y ago
Many political prisoners around the world are locked up from crimes unrelated to their activism. It is a popular method for locking up your political enemies. Now I do not believe this to be the case for Assange, but seeking political asylum when faced with allegations of non-political crimes is normal.