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>The word "unilateral" means one party. Yes, doing something unilaterally also means it's done without the agreement or participation of other people it might

>The word "unilateral" means one party. Yes, doing something unilaterally also means it's done without the agreement or participation of other people it might affect. In this context any use of force outside self-defense or authorized by the UN is unilateral. Take for example, US going into Iraq, even though there was a "coalition of the willing" comprised of approximately 30 nations, generally the international community condemned the use of force as unilateral military action because it was not authorized by the UN.[1] While the UN retroactively authorized the use of force in Iraq, it is still viewed as unilateral in the eyes of the international community, where unilateral military action is defined as "non-Security Council authorized". [2] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unilateralism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unilateralism [2] http://interactioncouncil.org/justifiable-cases-military-intervention http://interactioncouncil.org/justifiable-cases-military-int...

tptacek 12y ago
The parties involved in the UN are member states. AQAP is not a member state. ISIS is not a member state. The KKK is not a member state. The Donetsk separatists are not a member state. None of these organizations can demand any kind of due process from the UN. The UN exclusively governs relationships between its members. The UN is by design not a "World Court" to which arbitrary parties can appeal. The only two member states with standing in the AQAP conflict are Yemen and the US. Both members agree on the action. Similarly, the US doesn't need the permission of the UN Security Council to raid the compound of a Montana militia group. The UN Security Council is simply not implicated in the conflict with AQAP in Yemen. Should Yemen withdraw its permission for the US to use air resources to combat AQAP in Yemen, that would change. We aren't discussing the US invasion of Iraq, nor is the premise of this discussion that the US has never skirted the UN; clearly they have, just as Russia did in the Ukraine, the UK did in the Falklands, Turkey did in Cypress, and so on. So it does your argument no good to point out that the US has in the past not respected the UN. That has no bearing on the situation in Yemen.
- gadders 12y ago
  Yeah, the UK skirted the UN for the Falklands, but Argentina didn't?

tptacek 12y ago

The parties involved in the UN are member states. AQAP is not a member state. ISIS is not a member state. The KKK is not a member state. The Donetsk separatists are not a member state. None of these organizations can demand any kind of due process from the UN. The UN exclusively governs relationships between its members. The UN is by design not a "World Court" to which arbitrary parties can appeal. The only two member states with standing in the AQAP conflict are Yemen and the US. Both members agree on the action. Similarly, the US doesn't need the permission of the UN Security Council to raid the compound of a Montana militia group. The UN Security Council is simply not implicated in the conflict with AQAP in Yemen. Should Yemen withdraw its permission for the US to use air resources to combat AQAP in Yemen, that would change. We aren't discussing the US invasion of Iraq, nor is the premise of this discussion that the US has never skirted the UN; clearly they have, just as Russia did in the Ukraine, the UK did in the Falklands, Turkey did in Cypress, and so on. So it does your argument no good to point out that the US has in the past not respected the UN. That has no bearing on the situation in Yemen.

gadders 12y ago
Yeah, the UK skirted the UN for the Falklands, but Argentina didn't?