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I believe there are important social aspects of why/how the large public is presented with certainty about what Science says and has discovered while behind the

I believe there are important social aspects of why/how the large public is presented with certainty about what Science says and has discovered while behind the scene things are not that pretty. It seems that we too often forget that all of our beliefs are based on assumptions, some tested some not, some testable and some not. This means that our efforts are always asymptotically growing towards having true knowledge, as in a true justified belief. This should force some sense of humility in us, specially when dealing to others' beliefs. Religious or not.

Rapzid 12y ago
You're conflating beliefs with hypotheses.
- cristianpascu 12y ago
  Yes, because they are beliefs. We believe c is everywhere what it's measure to be here, but do we know that? If we don't know that for sure it's knowledge. Any sentence that we take as knowledge is a subspecies of a larger group called beliefs.
Retric 12y ago
If you’re completely honest you can’t guarantee with 100% accuracy what you name is. You’re not 100% positive how old you are. But, when someone asks your name or age 99.99+% accuracy is accepted as good enough. In many ways Science is 'unusually' honest which creates a lot of confusion. Ask everyone on the planet's name and age and you’re likely to find people that make mistakes. But, drop a mere 6 billion marbles and there likely all going to fall.
- onnoonno 12y ago
  The problem then is that even the estimation of your accuracy ('99.99+%') becomes baseless if only looked at closely enough.
aikah 12y ago
Science isn't about "beliefs".Science is about facts.Science isn't afraid of the unknown or to be challenged. Religion says one will rot in hell(whatever it is) if one challenges religion. There is no knowledge in religion, as religion doesn't explain anything that can be experimented by man kind.It's just failed philosophy, and it's pretty arrogant. But you're right,both religion and science are man made,they just have 2 opposite purposes.
- cristianpascu 12y ago
  There are many fields in Science. It's one thing to say if we build this bridge this way it will resist to an earthquake of this magnitude, and another thing to say x years ago there was a population of humanoids that did this and that. In the second case our explanation (composed of a set of sentences which are beliefs to be proved as true) is constructed by inferences from our observations (facts): this tool, that wall painting, whatever.
  - aikah 12y ago
    > It's one thing to say if we build this bridge this way it will resist to an earthquake of this magnitude, and another thing to say x years ago there was a population of humanoids that did this and that. that's not a belief.You can experiment and reproduce that experiment.Whether you get all the variables right is the issue science deals with. You can't "experiment" god,heaven,hell or angels.These are fairy tales which are based on nothing but ignorance.Their only purpose is power and control. Religion is useless. If you crave for spirituality,then philosophy is a better alternative.
- pc2g4d 12y ago
  What are facts but beliefs that are not considered controversial?

Rapzid 12y ago

You're conflating beliefs with hypotheses.

cristianpascu 12y ago
Yes, because they are beliefs. We believe c is everywhere what it's measure to be here, but do we know that? If we don't know that for sure it's knowledge. Any sentence that we take as knowledge is a subspecies of a larger group called beliefs.

Retric 12y ago

If you’re completely honest you can’t guarantee with 100% accuracy what you name is. You’re not 100% positive how old you are. But, when someone asks your name or age 99.99+% accuracy is accepted as good enough. In many ways Science is 'unusually' honest which creates a lot of confusion. Ask everyone on the planet's name and age and you’re likely to find people that make mistakes. But, drop a mere 6 billion marbles and there likely all going to fall.

onnoonno 12y ago
The problem then is that even the estimation of your accuracy ('99.99+%') becomes baseless if only looked at closely enough.

aikah 12y ago

Science isn't about "beliefs".Science is about facts.Science isn't afraid of the unknown or to be challenged. Religion says one will rot in hell(whatever it is) if one challenges religion. There is no knowledge in religion, as religion doesn't explain anything that can be experimented by man kind.It's just failed philosophy, and it's pretty arrogant. But you're right,both religion and science are man made,they just have 2 opposite purposes.

cristianpascu 12y ago
There are many fields in Science. It's one thing to say if we build this bridge this way it will resist to an earthquake of this magnitude, and another thing to say x years ago there was a population of humanoids that did this and that. In the second case our explanation (composed of a set of sentences which are beliefs to be proved as true) is constructed by inferences from our observations (facts): this tool, that wall painting, whatever.
- aikah 12y ago
  > It's one thing to say if we build this bridge this way it will resist to an earthquake of this magnitude, and another thing to say x years ago there was a population of humanoids that did this and that. that's not a belief.You can experiment and reproduce that experiment.Whether you get all the variables right is the issue science deals with. You can't "experiment" god,heaven,hell or angels.These are fairy tales which are based on nothing but ignorance.Their only purpose is power and control. Religion is useless. If you crave for spirituality,then philosophy is a better alternative.
pc2g4d 12y ago
What are facts but beliefs that are not considered controversial?