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In case you lived under a rock the last two years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance_disclosures_(2013–present) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G
by RottenHuman 12y ago
In case you lived under a rock the last two years:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance_disclosures_(2013–present) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance_disclosure...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
- PlzSnow 12y agoNone of these tools are "capturing everything I do on the Internet". They could be used to target an individual in some sense. But not capturing everything that everyone is doing. The problem with discussions about the NSA on HN is that sense, reasoning and rationality seem to go out the window.
- RottenHuman 12y ago>None of these tools are "capturing everything I do on the Internet". They could be used to target an individual in some sense. But not capturing everything that everyone is doing. That claim contradicts what Glenn Greenwald says. Why is he wrong? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/31/nsa-top-secret-program-online-data http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/31/nsa-top-secret-...
- PlzSnow 12y ago"That claim contradicts what Glenn Greenwald says. Why is he wrong?" Null hypothesis. His extraordinary claim required extraordinary evidence, and there was none. It is not up to me to prove a negative. But this is a pointless conversation. There is something about the topic of the NSA on HN... the debate has no logic or sense.
- emergentcypher 12y agoThere is plenty of evidence if you bother to look beyond your nose.
- lawnchair_larry 12y agoThey do actually capture everything, but there's no way they're renting this to the RIAA.
- emergentcypher 12y agoAnd from outside flies in wilful ignorance.