Sorry you feel disappointed (or are you just pissing on the competition?) No, it's not the competition thing at all, though I can see how it might seem that wa

Sorry you feel disappointed (or are you just pissing on the competition?) No, it's not the competition thing at all, though I can see how it might seem that way. I've been following Mailpile for a while with interest. We ship several installers for open source mail clients, and we even donate to some of them and contribute patches to them. It's kind of an accident of history that we make a mail client; there wasn't anything comparable at the time Usermin came into existence (and on some fronts still isn't, due to Usermin's broader feature set, covering things like uploading and downloading files, file management, database access, system password changes, various types of user configuration, etc.). We don't really spend enough time on it for it to be an awesome mail client, and we don't have a good UI developer on-board, and we get excited when we can ship something else that is more awesome. Most of our users prefer Roundcube to anything else we support, and we're OK with that. If Mailpile becomes awesome, we'd be OK with our users liking it more than Usermin for most use cases. I hope it wasn't too discouraging to read my criticism. It wasn't intended to be disheartening, though I guess I was harsh at the end (I've been following it so long, and with such enthusiasm, I'm a little frustrated it isn't awesome yet). I do think you'd be well-served to fight harder to get the UI really right and really fast, right out of the gate, before widespread usage. We're in the midst of UI growing pains (and really have been our whole existence as a project; Webmin is ugly as hell, but does so much more than anything else in its space that it still gets downloaded a shit ton, but it would make a lot of people happier if it also looked nice and felt nice to use).