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"How do you make people trust a system that is designed to get wrong answers more often than right answers?" You can start by teaching kids how real science is

by ohazi 12y ago

"How do you make people trust a system that is designed to get wrong answers more often than right answers?" You can start by teaching kids how real science is actually done in order to get them to understand and trust the process rather than the we-only-deal-in-absolutes pop-news headlines.

erroneousfunk 12y ago
Exactly. "Science" != "believing scientists" There's a component of reading research papers, trying to understand other people's work, etc., but, fundamentally, science works and moves forward independent of "belief" -- that's the whole point. You don't like that "science" told you to drink 8 glasses of water a day, and now they're telling you not to? Great, go read the research and figure out how much water you need to drink in a day. Don't write a blog post harping on "science" because it "lied" to you. That just shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what science actually is.
- totony 12y ago
  What you say is false. Science is all about trust. There is way too much fraud being done just for quick fame. Who wrote those research paper you take for granted, scientists? Are you saying that these papers are always right in what they affirm, or that, worst case, their result cannot be forged?
Filthy_casual 12y ago
In which case the fault shifts to media and schools for not explaining how things are. In Linux distribution terms, OP and the public want the stable distribution while in fact due to the nature of the field you can only get rolling updates.
calinet6 12y ago
Shortest, most concise version of the right answer. Science is the doubt and uncertainty part, not the results part. New and better results should always be celebrated, and when framed right, they are. We need better science and liberal arts education for everyone. We no longer live in a world where it is optional.

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"How do you make people trust a system that is designed to get wrong answers more often than right answers?" You can start by teaching kids how real science is

by ohazi 12y ago

erroneousfunk 12y ago
Exactly. "Science" != "believing scientists" There's a component of reading research papers, trying to understand other people's work, etc., but, fundamentally, science works and moves forward independent of "belief" -- that's the whole point. You don't like that "science" told you to drink 8 glasses of water a day, and now they're telling you not to? Great, go read the research and figure out how much water you need to drink in a day. Don't write a blog post harping on "science" because it "lied" to you. That just shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what science actually is.
- totony 12y ago
  What you say is false. Science is all about trust. There is way too much fraud being done just for quick fame. Who wrote those research paper you take for granted, scientists? Are you saying that these papers are always right in what they affirm, or that, worst case, their result cannot be forged?
Filthy_casual 12y ago
In which case the fault shifts to media and schools for not explaining how things are. In Linux distribution terms, OP and the public want the stable distribution while in fact due to the nature of the field you can only get rolling updates.
calinet6 12y ago
Shortest, most concise version of the right answer. Science is the doubt and uncertainty part, not the results part. New and better results should always be celebrated, and when framed right, they are. We need better science and liberal arts education for everyone. We no longer live in a world where it is optional.