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Hi, author here. I have been working on this as a hobby project for a few weeks now, and it's starting to look decent. It is barely an early alpha yet, so plea

by geon 12y ago

Hi, author here. I have been working on this as a hobby project for a few weeks now, and it's starting to look decent. It is barely an early alpha yet, so please forgive any catastrophic data loss etc... It is a tool for breaking down projects into manageable pieces, and to estimate the total time of the project. Pretty useful. I've been dogfooding during the development, and it is a lot better than my usual method of indented lists in a text file. * Click the button to create a new project. * Type in your project title. * Click the "+"-button to add a task. * Hover over a taks to see the button for adding subtasks. * Drag&drop task to reorder them or move them up/down the hierarchy. * Open the edit-dialog on a task to set an estimated time. * When you enter the first estimate in a task, you get projected estimates for all other tasks. It is desktop-only at the moment. Some of the stuff works on mobile, but don't count on it. None of the drag&drop works, for example, and it relies on mouse hover.

hobs 12y ago
I really like it, and will use it. * I think hovering to change the task is fine when you are adding smaller things, but if you are putting in a bunch of tasks it would be nice if you could just keep them there (like an edit mode). * I think the time entry part could use some work, obviously alpha here, but I could see things like a default time for each task, and a button to add/remove increments of time in a quick way. * Having some sort of bubbling surrounding or highlighting for each task group might be nice from a visual standpoint.
- geon 12y ago
  > * I think hovering to change the task is fine when you are adding smaller things, but if you are putting in a bunch of tasks it would be nice if you could just keep them there You mean like having the description and estimated time editable from the tree-view? It adds clutter... > * Having some sort of bubbling surrounding or highlighting for each task group might be nice from a visual standpoint. Hmm. It can't be there the whole time since the bulles would add borders-around-borders-around-borders for as deep as your tree is. The clutter adds up fast.
harrel 12y ago
Need a tiny bit of UI organization. Also would be great to tag other people. Would also be awesome if there is a way to tell if there is any relationship between the two or not. Looks super killer dude! Good job!
- geon 12y ago
  > Need a tiny bit of UI organization. Any specific things you would have changed? > Would also be awesome if there is a way to tell if there is any relationship between the two or not. Could you expand on that?
franciscop 12y ago
- The big, red button where normally there's an "accept" button is very dangerous while editing a task. Delete actions should be small-ish not to be done by accident. I suggest changing that button for an "Accept" one, and setting the delete as an extra row or somewhere not so-easy to click. - Clickable items are better with a `cursor: hover` on those elements. In that case, you know where you can click in a better way. - It's a productivity task, so make some things dead-obvious. For example, the fact that you can drag tasks around should not be discoverable by accident. You might want to add an icon or a small text on the bottom of the screen to make it obvious.
- coppolaemilio 12y ago
  +100000 to the big red delete button and the cursor: hover.
- geon 12y ago
  Great points, thanks! I have a task already for the `cursor: hover` and `cursor: move`. I'll move it up in the priority.
- sologoub 12y ago
  The hover to reveal sub-task add button doesn't work well with tablets as you end up opening the task edit first and then you can click on the now visible plus sign. Otherwise, really cool app!
  - geon 12y ago
    Yes, this is desktop-only so far. Sorry. I even removed the mobile-friendly responsive design I had for the landing page to not imply it will work on mobile... But it shouldn't be a big issue to get the drag&drop working. Trello does it great already. I might have to rethink the hover-reveal icons, though.
    - tommi 12y ago
      Hover as a concept doesn't work that well in the desktop either.

by geon 12y ago

hobs 12y ago

I really like it, and will use it. * I think hovering to change the task is fine when you are adding smaller things, but if you are putting in a bunch of tasks it would be nice if you could just keep them there (like an edit mode). * I think the time entry part could use some work, obviously alpha here, but I could see things like a default time for each task, and a button to add/remove increments of time in a quick way. * Having some sort of bubbling surrounding or highlighting for each task group might be nice from a visual standpoint.

geon 12y ago
> * I think hovering to change the task is fine when you are adding smaller things, but if you are putting in a bunch of tasks it would be nice if you could just keep them there You mean like having the description and estimated time editable from the tree-view? It adds clutter... > * Having some sort of bubbling surrounding or highlighting for each task group might be nice from a visual standpoint. Hmm. It can't be there the whole time since the bulles would add borders-around-borders-around-borders for as deep as your tree is. The clutter adds up fast.

harrel 12y ago

Need a tiny bit of UI organization. Also would be great to tag other people. Would also be awesome if there is a way to tell if there is any relationship between the two or not. Looks super killer dude! Good job!

geon 12y ago
> Need a tiny bit of UI organization. Any specific things you would have changed? > Would also be awesome if there is a way to tell if there is any relationship between the two or not. Could you expand on that?

franciscop 12y ago

- The big, red button where normally there's an "accept" button is very dangerous while editing a task. Delete actions should be small-ish not to be done by accident. I suggest changing that button for an "Accept" one, and setting the delete as an extra row or somewhere not so-easy to click. - Clickable items are better with a `cursor: hover` on those elements. In that case, you know where you can click in a better way. - It's a productivity task, so make some things dead-obvious. For example, the fact that you can drag tasks around should not be discoverable by accident. You might want to add an icon or a small text on the bottom of the screen to make it obvious.

coppolaemilio 12y ago
+100000 to the big red delete button and the cursor: hover.
geon 12y ago
Great points, thanks! I have a task already for the `cursor: hover` and `cursor: move`. I'll move it up in the priority.
sologoub 12y ago
The hover to reveal sub-task add button doesn't work well with tablets as you end up opening the task edit first and then you can click on the now visible plus sign. Otherwise, really cool app!
- geon 12y ago
  Yes, this is desktop-only so far. Sorry. I even removed the mobile-friendly responsive design I had for the landing page to not imply it will work on mobile... But it shouldn't be a big issue to get the drag&drop working. Trello does it great already. I might have to rethink the hover-reveal icons, though.
  - tommi 12y ago
    Hover as a concept doesn't work that well in the desktop either.