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1) That's what I suspected. 2) What if I force them to hold my hand so that I can show them to how to properly use it and convince them that it works? Since f

1) That's what I suspected. 2) What if I force them to hold my hand so that I can show them to how to properly use it and convince them that it works? Since first impression is so important, and the product needs hand holding to demonstrate it's value, my free trials would essentially be hurting me. There are some video files that give a lot of trouble so it's really to support their very custom requirements as the product for the paying users works fine. It's those people that want the custom work done for free which I don't think is a great people to target.

nostrademons 12y ago
It can be useful to do things manually and hold users' hands at the beginning, so that you get a much higher-bandwidth feedback channel. However, if you want to end up with a viable product, the product will eventually need to be simple enough that someone can use it without you explaining it. Otherwise you have a consulting/systems-integration business, not a product business.
- curiously 12y ago
  I think thats a good point. Eventually the product would've have to be a low touch, self service but for the niche I'm dealing with that's unlikely to be achieved with the resources that I have. Even when I do, I think there will still be those that fall through the cracks, I think that there will need to be a dedicated customer success manager or something like that to ensure that they are using it successfully and most of the time it's that they are using the wrong configurations or the source of the video file is extremely bad (choppy audio, weird artifacts etc). The tail, edge cases make up a lot of the use cases (as I can observe so far), it almost always require additional development effort. However, I don't think I can do those work for free and hope that they will buy when it's ready. I think I will actually consider removing the pricing pages, demo section and setup a "Call For Demo or Pricing" form that asks for phone number and company size. I am focused on sales so maybe having a consulting + software type of business might work better.
xkcd-sucks 12y ago
For users that abandon it, you could process the video that they've already uploaded and email the results to them, along with a short screencast/tutorial of how you did it? As long as there aren't legal/ethical issues with doing that. Also, datamining is like 95% trivial and 5% picking the right parameters, so you might focus a bit more on making the automagic parameter selection a little more useful
- curiously 12y ago
  yes I have done that before, record a screencast of how I did it and even email them the successful result. most of the time I got back no reply. It works for majority of cases but still the tail scenarios where it will choke. those edge cases consume majority of my development resources. I'm at a point where I think I will just say, 'not yet supported but will let you know' and instead focus my efforts on the cases that I can actually support.

nostrademons 12y ago

It can be useful to do things manually and hold users' hands at the beginning, so that you get a much higher-bandwidth feedback channel. However, if you want to end up with a viable product, the product will eventually need to be simple enough that someone can use it without you explaining it. Otherwise you have a consulting/systems-integration business, not a product business.

curiously 12y ago
I think thats a good point. Eventually the product would've have to be a low touch, self service but for the niche I'm dealing with that's unlikely to be achieved with the resources that I have. Even when I do, I think there will still be those that fall through the cracks, I think that there will need to be a dedicated customer success manager or something like that to ensure that they are using it successfully and most of the time it's that they are using the wrong configurations or the source of the video file is extremely bad (choppy audio, weird artifacts etc). The tail, edge cases make up a lot of the use cases (as I can observe so far), it almost always require additional development effort. However, I don't think I can do those work for free and hope that they will buy when it's ready. I think I will actually consider removing the pricing pages, demo section and setup a "Call For Demo or Pricing" form that asks for phone number and company size. I am focused on sales so maybe having a consulting + software type of business might work better.

xkcd-sucks 12y ago

For users that abandon it, you could process the video that they've already uploaded and email the results to them, along with a short screencast/tutorial of how you did it? As long as there aren't legal/ethical issues with doing that. Also, datamining is like 95% trivial and 5% picking the right parameters, so you might focus a bit more on making the automagic parameter selection a little more useful

curiously 12y ago
yes I have done that before, record a screencast of how I did it and even email them the successful result. most of the time I got back no reply. It works for majority of cases but still the tail scenarios where it will choke. those edge cases consume majority of my development resources. I'm at a point where I think I will just say, 'not yet supported but will let you know' and instead focus my efforts on the cases that I can actually support.