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Android Invasion: A Comprehensive List of Android Phones

39 points by nym 17y ago

nym 17y ago
The big question I have is will the OMAP3430 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP be faster than the 1GHz Snapdragon? Boy Genius Report says the Droid coming out on the 31st is really fast. This Techcrunch report also says it has 7hrs talk time, which is an improvement over the G1. Still going to be keeping a dock at home and work though!
- smokinn 17y ago
  This is a really important question because the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 that's rumored to be announced in November with a January releases uses the Snapdragon. If it is indeed faster I think the real "iPhone killer" might be the X10, not the Droid if the X10 is affordable.
  - enjo 17y ago
    I just don't trust SEMC to pull it off, however.
    - pyre 17y ago
      As long as they build the hardware well, the Android version running can be modified and/or replaced.
mdasen 17y ago
I'm hoping that Android quickly becomes the "Windows" of the mobile world - available from many manufactures who make a variety of devices to suit people's individual tastes. Plus, having the dominant platform be free and open source is a huge win.
- yason 17y ago
  It seems that Android is heading that way. I think the developer complaints about Android are a signal that developers are sticking with the platform. Much like Windows programmers complain loudly about Windows and still write code, or have to write code, for Windows. One might say: If you can't hear their complaints, they have left already.
cat2460one 17y ago
The droid's release date got moved up I think to the 28th.
- cat2460one 17y ago
  Ok, so the "unveiling" is on the 28th. Fuckers! I can't get the droid till the 9th.
yason 17y ago
Heh, where's Nokia on that list? They're on a downward spiral and they had better swallow their pride, ditch Symbian, lose the Not Invented Here mentality, and have that Android phone in the works already.
- zokier 17y ago
  Nokia has already Maemo which is far older and more linuxy. Its actually based on debian and afaik it's userspace is largely based on typical GNU userland. I for one would prefer Maemo to take over world instead of Android.
  - davidw 17y ago
    > Its actually based on debian and afaik it's userspace is largely based on typical GNU userland. I'm a "dyed in the wool" Linux user, but I just don't see the value of bringing along all that user space stuff. Android is slimmer, which hopefully means it will be in more phones sooner, as it requires less in the way of resources.
    - pavlov 17y ago
      From the application developer's point of view, Android is fairly resource-intensive because it doesn't support compiled applications. All the public APIs are only provided within Dalvik, an interpreted Java VM. This is a major break from Linux tradition. IMO Android doesn't qualify as a "Linux" when it only uses the Linux kernel without providing API access. Android is more like an extension of the traditional Java Mobile Edition approach to mobile platforms.
      - davidw 17y ago
        J2ME is actually pretty good at 'limited environments' - my first Java phone had a size limit of 64k or something for jars, and you could actually do some interesting stuff in that size. You'd definitely have to measure things to get the details, but what I meant was the Linux runtime - all the various libraries and shell and whatnot seem like a lot of stuff to have, whereas with Android, you only really need the Dalvik runtime and its accessories. It just seems like a smaller target to work with (also making work to optimize it pay off quite a bit).

39 points by nym 17y ago

nym 17y ago

The big question I have is will the OMAP3430 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP be faster than the 1GHz Snapdragon? Boy Genius Report says the Droid coming out on the 31st is really fast. This Techcrunch report also says it has 7hrs talk time, which is an improvement over the G1. Still going to be keeping a dock at home and work though!

smokinn 17y ago
This is a really important question because the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 that's rumored to be announced in November with a January releases uses the Snapdragon. If it is indeed faster I think the real "iPhone killer" might be the X10, not the Droid if the X10 is affordable.
- enjo 17y ago
  I just don't trust SEMC to pull it off, however.
  - pyre 17y ago
    As long as they build the hardware well, the Android version running can be modified and/or replaced.

mdasen 17y ago

I'm hoping that Android quickly becomes the "Windows" of the mobile world - available from many manufactures who make a variety of devices to suit people's individual tastes. Plus, having the dominant platform be free and open source is a huge win.

yason 17y ago
It seems that Android is heading that way. I think the developer complaints about Android are a signal that developers are sticking with the platform. Much like Windows programmers complain loudly about Windows and still write code, or have to write code, for Windows. One might say: If you can't hear their complaints, they have left already.

cat2460one 17y ago

The droid's release date got moved up I think to the 28th.

cat2460one 17y ago
Ok, so the "unveiling" is on the 28th. Fuckers! I can't get the droid till the 9th.

yason 17y ago

Heh, where's Nokia on that list? They're on a downward spiral and they had better swallow their pride, ditch Symbian, lose the Not Invented Here mentality, and have that Android phone in the works already.

zokier 17y ago
Nokia has already Maemo which is far older and more linuxy. Its actually based on debian and afaik it's userspace is largely based on typical GNU userland. I for one would prefer Maemo to take over world instead of Android.
- davidw 17y ago
  > Its actually based on debian and afaik it's userspace is largely based on typical GNU userland. I'm a "dyed in the wool" Linux user, but I just don't see the value of bringing along all that user space stuff. Android is slimmer, which hopefully means it will be in more phones sooner, as it requires less in the way of resources.
  - pavlov 17y ago
    From the application developer's point of view, Android is fairly resource-intensive because it doesn't support compiled applications. All the public APIs are only provided within Dalvik, an interpreted Java VM. This is a major break from Linux tradition. IMO Android doesn't qualify as a "Linux" when it only uses the Linux kernel without providing API access. Android is more like an extension of the traditional Java Mobile Edition approach to mobile platforms.
    - davidw 17y ago
      J2ME is actually pretty good at 'limited environments' - my first Java phone had a size limit of 64k or something for jars, and you could actually do some interesting stuff in that size. You'd definitely have to measure things to get the details, but what I meant was the Linux runtime - all the various libraries and shell and whatnot seem like a lot of stuff to have, whereas with Android, you only really need the Dalvik runtime and its accessories. It just seems like a smaller target to work with (also making work to optimize it pay off quite a bit).