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I was wondering if these could be used to store hydrogen generated by solar water-splitting? Could the hydrogen be piped in place of natural gas? Or combined wi
by chrisb 12y ago
I was wondering if these could be used to store hydrogen generated by solar water-splitting?
Could the hydrogen be piped in place of natural gas? Or combined with natural gas? seemingly "town gas" was primarily hydrogen [1].
Or it could generate electricity via combustion or fuel cell, providing dispatchable renewable energy with grid-scale storage :)
An averaged-size gas-holder has capacity of ~50,000 m^3 [2]. Gas holders store gas at essentially atmospheric pressure, so the stored hydrogen has an energy density of ~0.01 MJ/L [3] = ~10^7 J/m^3. So the gas-holder energy capacity is ~5*10^11 J = ~140 MWh
In comparison Dinorwig pumped-storage power station in the UK has an energy capacity of ~9000 MWh [4]
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_gas#Composition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_gas#Composition
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_holder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_holder
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density
[4] http://www.withouthotair.com/c26/page_191.shtml http://www.withouthotair.com/c26/page_191.shtml
- awjr 12y agoThought storing Hydrogen was notoriously hard because it can penetrates rather effectively through pretty much anything.
- chrisb 12y agoI can't find a reference now, but as I understand it this isn't so much of an issue at low pressure. Apparently underground low pressure storage has been used successfully: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_storage#Underground_hydrogen_storage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_storage#Underground_hy...
- KaiserPro 12y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_gas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_gas Seemed to be not to hard with town gas (which was >50% hydrogen)
- ptaipale 12y agoHydrogen is explosive, corrosive, and it literally leaks through materials, unlike natural gas. Town gas may have had it as component but it sounds scary, unlike natural gas.