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On the other hand, younger founders don't have enough experience so they may waste a ton of time trying things that older founders know won't work so they are a

by dntrkv 12y ago

On the other hand, younger founders don't have enough experience so they may waste a ton of time trying things that older founders know won't work so they are able to produce results faster. Also, an older founder may have a healthier work/life balance and better time management skills so every minute they are working they are able to produce better results, whereas the younger founders will be wasting time on things that don't matter or recovering from drinking until 4am the night before.

empressplay 12y ago
Experience can end up equating to an inability to try new things, so inexperience can be desirable in innovative pursuits. Older people often have a "healthier" work / life balance because they don't have the energy or stamina of their younger counterparts. Not every young founder parties all night (stereotype much?)
- frostmatthew 12y ago
  > Experience can end up equating to an inability to try new things, so inexperience can be desirable in innovative pursuits. You're making this comment on a post exploring the age of famous inventors when they were awarded patents. Instead of responding with stereotypes it'd probably be a stronger case to point out inventors of similar caliber who achieved their most innovative pursuits in their early 20s rather than later in life.
  - empressplay 12y ago
    I'm being sarcastic. Many of those same older men who argue they're just as good as younger men "they just have different strengths" are the same ones who will argue that women don't do well in technical areas because they don't match a particular rigid set of qualities, ignoring that they also have different but equally useful aptitudes. I'm trying to make the point that finding justifications for having a bias against older men are just as easy as finding biases against women. Neither are particularly useful.
    - robotkilla 12y ago
      Women don't do well in tech because people tend treat girls as if they are for sex from a pretty young age, if through nothing else but marketing. Science and math is pushed hard on boys still. Ponies, rainbows and babies are "for gays and girls" seems to be the general real world attitude still. I have a daughter and everyone, my ex, various family members, the school - they don't push her as hard "because she's a girl" - they don't see her getting into tech "because she's a girl". She herself is trying to learn to program and already she's facing a struggle. At the same time she's being sold a sexualized image of women through the media. Granted I haven't thought about the racism aspect. My quick thoughts on it are that it starts at a lower level - home environment, racism in grade and high school and probably throughout college. If you're tall and black in america you're most likely getting sports pushed on you rather than tech. If you're from a poor area your parents may have grown up with poor education and aren't really showing you the care you need (regardless of skin color) and now you have to figure out a way to learn in perhaps a very loud environment, or a drug filled environment. This is an issue that might be solved by easier access to technology and education for low income environments. As for ageism - its a terrifying prospect because it means everything I've spent the last decade absorbing which has improved my craft gets shit on and goes to hell. then again, that's how it works anyway - you make a website perhaps and its refactored and gone 6 months to a year later. The tech industry is kind of a joke right now. So many people have spent so much money to go on to build, fund or scheme up the next shitty flash in the pan iphone app. But hey, there's free lunch every day in the kitchen... and dogs roam around our open office where "random" nerf fights break out every wednesday between 3 and 4:15. edit: fixed some stuff.

by dntrkv 12y ago

empressplay 12y ago

Experience can end up equating to an inability to try new things, so inexperience can be desirable in innovative pursuits. Older people often have a "healthier" work / life balance because they don't have the energy or stamina of their younger counterparts. Not every young founder parties all night (stereotype much?)

frostmatthew 12y ago
> Experience can end up equating to an inability to try new things, so inexperience can be desirable in innovative pursuits. You're making this comment on a post exploring the age of famous inventors when they were awarded patents. Instead of responding with stereotypes it'd probably be a stronger case to point out inventors of similar caliber who achieved their most innovative pursuits in their early 20s rather than later in life.
- empressplay 12y ago
  I'm being sarcastic. Many of those same older men who argue they're just as good as younger men "they just have different strengths" are the same ones who will argue that women don't do well in technical areas because they don't match a particular rigid set of qualities, ignoring that they also have different but equally useful aptitudes. I'm trying to make the point that finding justifications for having a bias against older men are just as easy as finding biases against women. Neither are particularly useful.
  - robotkilla 12y ago
    Women don't do well in tech because people tend treat girls as if they are for sex from a pretty young age, if through nothing else but marketing. Science and math is pushed hard on boys still. Ponies, rainbows and babies are "for gays and girls" seems to be the general real world attitude still. I have a daughter and everyone, my ex, various family members, the school - they don't push her as hard "because she's a girl" - they don't see her getting into tech "because she's a girl". She herself is trying to learn to program and already she's facing a struggle. At the same time she's being sold a sexualized image of women through the media. Granted I haven't thought about the racism aspect. My quick thoughts on it are that it starts at a lower level - home environment, racism in grade and high school and probably throughout college. If you're tall and black in america you're most likely getting sports pushed on you rather than tech. If you're from a poor area your parents may have grown up with poor education and aren't really showing you the care you need (regardless of skin color) and now you have to figure out a way to learn in perhaps a very loud environment, or a drug filled environment. This is an issue that might be solved by easier access to technology and education for low income environments. As for ageism - its a terrifying prospect because it means everything I've spent the last decade absorbing which has improved my craft gets shit on and goes to hell. then again, that's how it works anyway - you make a website perhaps and its refactored and gone 6 months to a year later. The tech industry is kind of a joke right now. So many people have spent so much money to go on to build, fund or scheme up the next shitty flash in the pan iphone app. But hey, there's free lunch every day in the kitchen... and dogs roam around our open office where "random" nerf fights break out every wednesday between 3 and 4:15. edit: fixed some stuff.