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I scrolled through the comments looking for the obligatory hell freezing over snark remark. Cyanogen is arguably the only creditable opposition to the Google A

by jhou2 12y ago

I scrolled through the comments looking for the obligatory hell freezing over snark remark. Cyanogen is arguably the only creditable opposition to the Google Android hegemony. It's nice to see MS recognize that and support it. Too bad MS shut down the Nokia Android fork in its nascency. It would be interesting to see if they can get more windows and windows phone compatibility into Android.

bentcorner 12y ago
I recall fiddling with an HTC HD2, able to run both WP7 and Android ROMs (Froyo I think?). What a great device.
- semi-extrinsic 12y ago
  Back in 2010 I was given an HTC Touch Pro 2 that ran the positively ancient Windows Mobile (hence "given"). Someone had ported both Android and Ubuntu to it, and I used it with Android as my primary phone for some months. The hardware was great, the UX on Android was OK, but had enough quirks that it was replaced with an LG P500 (which lasted for 2.5 years; now that was a great phone).
  - freehunter 12y ago
    Ugh I had a Touch Pro (the first one) on Alltel. It was a piece of junk. I ended up having four of them. Every time I took it back because something was broken, I waited for weeks to get a replacement to find out that the replacement had something else broken. Alltel was being bought by AT&T/Verizon at the time, so they weren't getting new phones and the Touch Pro was the best phone they had so they couldn't replace my phone with a new, similar phone. Sprint was giving everyone who had a Touch Pro a Touch Pro 2 for free, there were so many issues. When I finally was able to get a new phone, I got a Palm Pre which was (and still is) the best phone I ever used until HP ruined it.
  - CalRobert 12y ago
    An HTC Touch Pro 2 was my primary device for years. It had the best keyboard that I have ever used on a phone. I've been trying to get used to software keyboards for three years, and I still _HATE_ them. Modern phones are worthless, and it's the lack of any means of inputting (discreetly - I hate talking at my phone) more than a few sentences that makes them junk.
    - robin_reala 12y ago
      Why don’t you just get a keyboard case then? I’ve no direct experience, but this[0] came up on my first search query and looks reasonable enough and inexpensive. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultrathin-Bluetooth-Slider-Keyboard-Backlit/dp/B00GCFCUY6 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultrathin-Bluetooth-Slider-Keyboard-...
fredgrott 12y ago
no you clearly do not understand AOSP.. Cyanogen follows Google AOSP rules and thus doe snot oppose Google in anyway shape or form.. and despite MS actions Nokia, the other part MS did not buy is going ahead with an android fork.
- soapdog 12y ago
  > despite MS actions Nokia, the other part MS did not buy is going ahead with an android fork. Can you provide a source for this please? I remember reading about the new Nokia N1 tablet but it was built and designed by foxconn and just branded by Nokia so I am not aware of any Android fork there...
  - jpalomaki 12y ago
    The "Android fork stuff" was part of Nokia Mobile Phones, so it ended up at Microsoft. Nokia has the "Z Launcher" product which also the N1 tablet is running. https://www.zlauncher.com https://www.zlauncher.com
  - sirkneeland 12y ago
    Hi I'm a Nokia PM on this project. It's not an Android fork. Z Launcher is running on top of vanilla Android on the N1.
- Splendor 12y ago
  I think that's been true up until now, but Cyanogen has recently announce intentions to move away from dependence on Google.[0] [0] http://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogen-google-kirt-mcmaster-582373/ http://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogen-google-kirt-mcmaste...
  - Grazester 12y ago
    I cant help but think of Amazon's FireOS and that's not a good thing.
    - 12y ago
BigChiefSmokem 12y ago
The new Nokia N1 uses Lollipop: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n1-6814.php http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n1-6814.php Sales: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/01/nokia-n1-doing-extremely-well-in-china/ http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/01/nokia-n1-doing-extremely-we... Nokia Android fork lives. Stay tuned.
- sirkneeland 12y ago
  Hi, as a PM on this Nokia project, I want to point out that it's not a fork. We use vanilla Android Lollipop and our Z Launcher addition is entirely optional.
  - Grazester 12y ago
    I was just about to say it isnt a fork!
  - jhou2 12y ago
    Thank you for correcting me. The N1 looks fascinating. Hope it will become available outside of China soon.
    - sirkneeland 12y ago
      It will :)
- abrowne 12y ago
  That's the company that still exists called Nokia, not MS Mobile, the hardware arm that Nokia sold, which until recently still sold phones as Nokia.
reddotX 12y ago
there is also Ubuntu Phone

by jhou2 12y ago

bentcorner 12y ago

I recall fiddling with an HTC HD2, able to run both WP7 and Android ROMs (Froyo I think?). What a great device.

semi-extrinsic 12y ago
Back in 2010 I was given an HTC Touch Pro 2 that ran the positively ancient Windows Mobile (hence "given"). Someone had ported both Android and Ubuntu to it, and I used it with Android as my primary phone for some months. The hardware was great, the UX on Android was OK, but had enough quirks that it was replaced with an LG P500 (which lasted for 2.5 years; now that was a great phone).
- freehunter 12y ago
  Ugh I had a Touch Pro (the first one) on Alltel. It was a piece of junk. I ended up having four of them. Every time I took it back because something was broken, I waited for weeks to get a replacement to find out that the replacement had something else broken. Alltel was being bought by AT&T/Verizon at the time, so they weren't getting new phones and the Touch Pro was the best phone they had so they couldn't replace my phone with a new, similar phone. Sprint was giving everyone who had a Touch Pro a Touch Pro 2 for free, there were so many issues. When I finally was able to get a new phone, I got a Palm Pre which was (and still is) the best phone I ever used until HP ruined it.
- CalRobert 12y ago
  An HTC Touch Pro 2 was my primary device for years. It had the best keyboard that I have ever used on a phone. I've been trying to get used to software keyboards for three years, and I still _HATE_ them. Modern phones are worthless, and it's the lack of any means of inputting (discreetly - I hate talking at my phone) more than a few sentences that makes them junk.
  - robin_reala 12y ago
    Why don’t you just get a keyboard case then? I’ve no direct experience, but this[0] came up on my first search query and looks reasonable enough and inexpensive. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultrathin-Bluetooth-Slider-Keyboard-Backlit/dp/B00GCFCUY6 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultrathin-Bluetooth-Slider-Keyboard-...

fredgrott 12y ago

no you clearly do not understand AOSP.. Cyanogen follows Google AOSP rules and thus doe snot oppose Google in anyway shape or form.. and despite MS actions Nokia, the other part MS did not buy is going ahead with an android fork.

soapdog 12y ago
> despite MS actions Nokia, the other part MS did not buy is going ahead with an android fork. Can you provide a source for this please? I remember reading about the new Nokia N1 tablet but it was built and designed by foxconn and just branded by Nokia so I am not aware of any Android fork there...
- jpalomaki 12y ago
  The "Android fork stuff" was part of Nokia Mobile Phones, so it ended up at Microsoft. Nokia has the "Z Launcher" product which also the N1 tablet is running. https://www.zlauncher.com https://www.zlauncher.com
- sirkneeland 12y ago
  Hi I'm a Nokia PM on this project. It's not an Android fork. Z Launcher is running on top of vanilla Android on the N1.
Splendor 12y ago
I think that's been true up until now, but Cyanogen has recently announce intentions to move away from dependence on Google.[0] [0] http://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogen-google-kirt-mcmaster-582373/ http://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogen-google-kirt-mcmaste...
- Grazester 12y ago
  I cant help but think of Amazon's FireOS and that's not a good thing.
  - 12y ago

BigChiefSmokem 12y ago

The new Nokia N1 uses Lollipop: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n1-6814.php http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n1-6814.php Sales: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/01/nokia-n1-doing-extremely-well-in-china/ http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/01/nokia-n1-doing-extremely-we... Nokia Android fork lives. Stay tuned.

sirkneeland 12y ago
Hi, as a PM on this Nokia project, I want to point out that it's not a fork. We use vanilla Android Lollipop and our Z Launcher addition is entirely optional.
- Grazester 12y ago
  I was just about to say it isnt a fork!
- jhou2 12y ago
  Thank you for correcting me. The N1 looks fascinating. Hope it will become available outside of China soon.
  - sirkneeland 12y ago
    It will :)
abrowne 12y ago
That's the company that still exists called Nokia, not MS Mobile, the hardware arm that Nokia sold, which until recently still sold phones as Nokia.

reddotX 12y ago

there is also Ubuntu Phone