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The directed & stereotypical bash of Christians is unwarranted (not the least of which is that the whole point of "Christian" is proselytizing, not killing). Go

The directed & stereotypical bash of Christians is unwarranted (not the least of which is that the whole point of "Christian" is proselytizing, not killing). Goes in every direction; if you're going to bash like that, try the recent Greenpeace activist calling for beheading "climate change deniers" http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/01/25/greenpeace-activist-calls-for-climate-change-deniers-to-be-beheaded/ http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/01/25/greenpeace-activi...

pstuart 12y ago
What the fuck? I said "plenty of Good Christians". Maybe I should have quoted the "Good Christians" part. I have family and friends who are Christian and I have no problem with it. A person's relationship between themselves and God is their business. Are you prepared to state that there are no Americans who consider themselves "god fearing folk" who would have no trouble with harming those "not like themselves"? After all, we've never seen any sort of violence against blacks by "Good Christians", have we? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Or violence against gays, when there are plenty of preachers expounding upon how evil and sick they are, and what a threat they are to society? No, of course not. No Good Christian would do that. And how many people have been beheaded by Greenpeace activists? Really sorry to have offended you with my blasphemy /s
- ctdonath 12y ago
  Ask your Christian family & friends what they think of casual comments imputing them with a propensity toward religious violence.
  - dragonwriter 12y ago
    I'm Christian and I don't think anything pstuart said about "plenty of Good Christians" was either inaccurate or imputed a propensity toward religious violence to Christians generally, merely indicated that the human propensity for such things was not especially lacking in the Christian community, and which could be expected to erupt from some segments of that community were it sanctioned by law. Which any honest Christian would have to admit is well-grounded factually.
  - pstuart 12y ago
    Are you trolling or stupid? I never said all Christians are violent. I said that there are plenty (that's a number that means "enough to matter") that are. Time to own up: are you a Christian? Is that why you are butthurt and making up lies about my intent?
    - ctdonath 12y ago
      You didn't say "all", but you did say "plenty" when there aren't any. When implying mass murder, that is indeed a sore point - when there IS another [sub]group which IS, today, beheading Christians and pushing homosexuals off buildings for their views.
      - pstuart 12y ago
        > If someone casually insults what I hold dear Ok. You're a Christian. So you're completely biased which comes through in the way you distort what I say, e.g. > You didn't say "all", but you did say "plenty" when there aren't any. When implying mass murder[...] Aren't any? You have no proof and history suggests otherwise. And it wasn't mass murder that I was suggesting, it was targeted attacks. By your username I'm betting that you're Irish Catholic. You've been conditioned to never question the faith and demonstrate that by attacking everything I've said. We all know the Church has never done anything wrong at all. Ever! But if it makes you feel better, I think your new Pope is great -- he walks the talk and espouses the "good stuff" about Jesus. His only failing to date has been to condemn blasphemy, which is a horrible mistake. Lastly, I offer this thought experiment: do you think any of the islamic terrorists we read about consider themselves "Good Muslims"? Can people be devout and do horrible things colored by that way of mind?
manicdee 12y ago
When I was growing up, "Irish Catholic" was synonymous with "terrorist." Only in those days we had more words for terorists: "Libyan hijackers," "IRA members," and so forth. I challenge your implication that "proselytising" is harmless. "Proselytising" in my experience has been nothing less than psychological torture and sustained verbal abuse. You can have your religion, but please keep it to yourself. If I am curious, I will ask.
- ctdonath 12y ago
  How arrogant. If someone casually insults what I hold dear, I may speak out without awaiting your inquiry.
pstuart 12y ago
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/01/oklahoma-gop-wants-to-restrict-marriage-to-people-of-faith/ http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015... What kind of proselytizing is this?

pstuart 12y ago

What the fuck? I said "plenty of Good Christians". Maybe I should have quoted the "Good Christians" part. I have family and friends who are Christian and I have no problem with it. A person's relationship between themselves and God is their business. Are you prepared to state that there are no Americans who consider themselves "god fearing folk" who would have no trouble with harming those "not like themselves"? After all, we've never seen any sort of violence against blacks by "Good Christians", have we? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Or violence against gays, when there are plenty of preachers expounding upon how evil and sick they are, and what a threat they are to society? No, of course not. No Good Christian would do that. And how many people have been beheaded by Greenpeace activists? Really sorry to have offended you with my blasphemy /s

ctdonath 12y ago
Ask your Christian family & friends what they think of casual comments imputing them with a propensity toward religious violence.
- dragonwriter 12y ago
  I'm Christian and I don't think anything pstuart said about "plenty of Good Christians" was either inaccurate or imputed a propensity toward religious violence to Christians generally, merely indicated that the human propensity for such things was not especially lacking in the Christian community, and which could be expected to erupt from some segments of that community were it sanctioned by law. Which any honest Christian would have to admit is well-grounded factually.
- pstuart 12y ago
  Are you trolling or stupid? I never said all Christians are violent. I said that there are plenty (that's a number that means "enough to matter") that are. Time to own up: are you a Christian? Is that why you are butthurt and making up lies about my intent?
  - ctdonath 12y ago
    You didn't say "all", but you did say "plenty" when there aren't any. When implying mass murder, that is indeed a sore point - when there IS another [sub]group which IS, today, beheading Christians and pushing homosexuals off buildings for their views.
    - pstuart 12y ago
      > If someone casually insults what I hold dear Ok. You're a Christian. So you're completely biased which comes through in the way you distort what I say, e.g. > You didn't say "all", but you did say "plenty" when there aren't any. When implying mass murder[...] Aren't any? You have no proof and history suggests otherwise. And it wasn't mass murder that I was suggesting, it was targeted attacks. By your username I'm betting that you're Irish Catholic. You've been conditioned to never question the faith and demonstrate that by attacking everything I've said. We all know the Church has never done anything wrong at all. Ever! But if it makes you feel better, I think your new Pope is great -- he walks the talk and espouses the "good stuff" about Jesus. His only failing to date has been to condemn blasphemy, which is a horrible mistake. Lastly, I offer this thought experiment: do you think any of the islamic terrorists we read about consider themselves "Good Muslims"? Can people be devout and do horrible things colored by that way of mind?

manicdee 12y ago

When I was growing up, "Irish Catholic" was synonymous with "terrorist." Only in those days we had more words for terorists: "Libyan hijackers," "IRA members," and so forth. I challenge your implication that "proselytising" is harmless. "Proselytising" in my experience has been nothing less than psychological torture and sustained verbal abuse. You can have your religion, but please keep it to yourself. If I am curious, I will ask.

ctdonath 12y ago
How arrogant. If someone casually insults what I hold dear, I may speak out without awaiting your inquiry.

pstuart 12y ago

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/01/oklahoma-gop-wants-to-restrict-marriage-to-people-of-faith/ http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015... What kind of proselytizing is this?