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Results of the python 2.x and 3.x use survey, 2014 edition

30 points by bru 12y ago

bru 12y ago
More elegant Google Form quick recap: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DqxkNi4GvyTCu54usSdE1DjW29zw1tc52iMeH3z4heg/viewanalytics https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DqxkNi4GvyTCu54usSdE1DjW29z... Overall people started writing more python 3: +15 points in "I ever wrote python 3 code", +10 points in "I write more python 3 than 2". Transition is still ongoing and I hope a tipping point will be soon be attained. Users definitely seem to want to switch to python 3, but dependencies keep them with 2.7 (I weep for the few ones still on 2.5). edit: google results were inaccessible, now fixed.
Fuzzwah 12y ago
I've been working on a project that relies on a library which is only available in python 3, it is at a point where I want to pretty up the interface. I'm wondering if wxpython phoenix is stable enough to warrant the time and effort, or if I should hold off until there is a non-dev release?
- toyg 12y ago
  Why not PyQt ?
  - Fuzzwah 12y ago
    Mostly because I've always used wxpython for my python 2.7 projects. I'm doing some reading about PyQt5 now and I think I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the reply.
  - erglkjahlkh 12y ago
    Unfortunately this was my first thought as well. Although wxwidgets works on several platforms, it manages to look and feel alien on almost every. If you care about usability, I believe your application should be consistent with the rest on the target platform(s). Wxwidgets based applications are simply failures especially on Windows. QT fares significantly better on the usability. Java's look and feel system works as well. You could also separate the V properly, and for instance use WinAPI wrapper on Windows platform. Just please, please let wxwidgets die already :(
Animats 12y ago
They asked "When starting a personal project, which Python version do you use?" Strangely, they did not ask "When starting a production project, which Python version do you use?"
- Aldo_MX 12y ago
  To be fair, you don't always have a choice when starting a production project.
  - julianz 12y ago
    That doesn't matter though. Choice or not, what do people use?
  - jlarocco 12y ago
    Well somebody had the choice.
julianz 12y ago
The porting question could possibly be explained by people just not bothering to port older stuff. I've got production code running in Python 2, and it's fine where it is. New stuff is in 3, and if I have to rework the old stuff at some point it'll probably get an upgrade.

30 points by bru 12y ago

bru 12y ago

More elegant Google Form quick recap: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DqxkNi4GvyTCu54usSdE1DjW29zw1tc52iMeH3z4heg/viewanalytics https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DqxkNi4GvyTCu54usSdE1DjW29z... Overall people started writing more python 3: +15 points in "I ever wrote python 3 code", +10 points in "I write more python 3 than 2". Transition is still ongoing and I hope a tipping point will be soon be attained. Users definitely seem to want to switch to python 3, but dependencies keep them with 2.7 (I weep for the few ones still on 2.5). edit: google results were inaccessible, now fixed.

Fuzzwah 12y ago

I've been working on a project that relies on a library which is only available in python 3, it is at a point where I want to pretty up the interface. I'm wondering if wxpython phoenix is stable enough to warrant the time and effort, or if I should hold off until there is a non-dev release?

toyg 12y ago
Why not PyQt ?
- Fuzzwah 12y ago
  Mostly because I've always used wxpython for my python 2.7 projects. I'm doing some reading about PyQt5 now and I think I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the reply.
- erglkjahlkh 12y ago
  Unfortunately this was my first thought as well. Although wxwidgets works on several platforms, it manages to look and feel alien on almost every. If you care about usability, I believe your application should be consistent with the rest on the target platform(s). Wxwidgets based applications are simply failures especially on Windows. QT fares significantly better on the usability. Java's look and feel system works as well. You could also separate the V properly, and for instance use WinAPI wrapper on Windows platform. Just please, please let wxwidgets die already :(

Animats 12y ago

They asked "When starting a personal project, which Python version do you use?" Strangely, they did not ask "When starting a production project, which Python version do you use?"

Aldo_MX 12y ago
To be fair, you don't always have a choice when starting a production project.
- julianz 12y ago
  That doesn't matter though. Choice or not, what do people use?
- jlarocco 12y ago
  Well somebody had the choice.

julianz 12y ago

The porting question could possibly be explained by people just not bothering to port older stuff. I've got production code running in Python 2, and it's fine where it is. New stuff is in 3, and if I have to rework the old stuff at some point it'll probably get an upgrade.