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Isn't the NSA/CIA hosting with Amazon nowadays?

by hellbanner 12y ago

ForHackernews 12y ago
Maybe their website. Not for anything that matters. They're not building billion-dollar datacenters in Utah for fun.
- dclusin 12y ago
  Amazon has a separate cloud for government computing that conforms to the various classification regimes, iirc.
  - discodave 12y ago
    That's GovCloud, see here: http://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/ http://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/ The 600 million contract described here is not GovCloud: http://www.informationweek.com/cloud/infrastructure-as-a-service/amazon-again-beats-ibm-for-cia-cloud-contract/d/d-id/1112211 http://www.informationweek.com/cloud/infrastructure-as-a-ser...?
- karambahh 12y ago
  I think I read somewhere about rumors of intelligence agencies availabilty zone, under physical control of US intelligence agencies. After all, at a massive scale, having access to industry standard tools for provisionning makes sense: give $$$ to AMZN for their software stack and hw integration cost probably less than building your own...? AWS GovCloud exist solely for this purpose: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/latest/UserGuide/whatis.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/latest/UserGuide/what... A really private AV zone is just a step away: put gov guards at the entrance of DCs, replace all AWS teams by in-house personnel (or have AWS teams sworned in at the relevant level...?)
  - ForHackernews 12y ago
    http://docs.aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/latest/UserGuide/govcloud-differences.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/latest/UserGuide/govc... > Hard token multi-factor authentication (MFA) devices are not available in the AWS GovCloud (US) region.
  - dbarlett 12y ago
    "a $600 million computing cloud developed by Amazon Web Services for the Central Intelligence Agency over the past year will begin servicing all 17 agencies that make up the intelligence community." http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-details-about-the-cias-deal-with-amazon/374632/ http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-de...

Isn't the NSA/CIA hosting with Amazon nowadays?

ForHackernews 12y ago

Maybe their website. Not for anything that matters. They're not building billion-dollar datacenters in Utah for fun.

dclusin 12y ago
Amazon has a separate cloud for government computing that conforms to the various classification regimes, iirc.
- discodave 12y ago
  That's GovCloud, see here: http://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/ http://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/ The 600 million contract described here is not GovCloud: http://www.informationweek.com/cloud/infrastructure-as-a-service/amazon-again-beats-ibm-for-cia-cloud-contract/d/d-id/1112211 http://www.informationweek.com/cloud/infrastructure-as-a-ser...?
karambahh 12y ago
I think I read somewhere about rumors of intelligence agencies availabilty zone, under physical control of US intelligence agencies. After all, at a massive scale, having access to industry standard tools for provisionning makes sense: give $$$ to AMZN for their software stack and hw integration cost probably less than building your own...? AWS GovCloud exist solely for this purpose: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/latest/UserGuide/whatis.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/latest/UserGuide/what... A really private AV zone is just a step away: put gov guards at the entrance of DCs, replace all AWS teams by in-house personnel (or have AWS teams sworned in at the relevant level...?)
- ForHackernews 12y ago
  http://docs.aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/latest/UserGuide/govcloud-differences.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/latest/UserGuide/govc... > Hard token multi-factor authentication (MFA) devices are not available in the AWS GovCloud (US) region.
- dbarlett 12y ago
  "a $600 million computing cloud developed by Amazon Web Services for the Central Intelligence Agency over the past year will begin servicing all 17 agencies that make up the intelligence community." http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-details-about-the-cias-deal-with-amazon/374632/ http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-de...