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To keep the logic going (that Dustin may have been implying) - why meet face-to-face and pay thousands for travel expenses?

by alabut 17y ago

mediaman 17y ago
- People prioritize those who they have met in person: it's why in-person meetings are so important in sales. - There's a higher likelihood they share networks, or have the potential to share networks, which provides additional incentive to do a good job. In short, all the reasons that geography still matters in most businesses.
- tptacek 17y ago
  I was just thinking, so we could share a piece of paper to draw on. But those reasons make sense too.
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  - alabut 17y ago
    You can be separated by distance and still easily use paper to quickly iterate through ideas. 37signals themselves do this - they're geographically distributed yet use Sharpies to think through rough interface ideas: http://37signals.com/svn/posts/466-sketching-with-a-sharpie http://37signals.com/svn/posts/466-sketching-with-a-sharpie http://37signals.com/svn/posts/1880-the-different-sketch-styles-of-the-designers-at-37signals http://37signals.com/svn/posts/1880-the-different-sketch-sty... All of my freelance clients in the last few years have been startups in the Bay Area (where I live) so I understand all of those reasons and the benefits of proximity. Hell, I wouldn't have moved up here if I hadn't read Hackers And Painters in 2005 - I wanted to be where the action was. But I've been slowly doing less and less on-site work and have gotten to the point where I don't do much more than weekly meetings and not even that with some clients, so I can't help but realize that I could've technically been anywhere in the world for all intents and purposes. And these aren't low-paying entry level portfolio builders either, it's real paying work with the same challenges as always. So again, are the reasons for working with a local designer more important than overall skill and portfolio?

To keep the logic going (that Dustin may have been implying) - why meet face-to-face and pay thousands for travel expenses?

by alabut 17y ago

To keep the logic going (that Dustin may have been implying) - why meet face-to-face and pay thousands for travel expenses?

mediaman 17y ago

- People prioritize those who they have met in person: it's why in-person meetings are so important in sales. - There's a higher likelihood they share networks, or have the potential to share networks, which provides additional incentive to do a good job. In short, all the reasons that geography still matters in most businesses.

tptacek 17y ago
I was just thinking, so we could share a piece of paper to draw on. But those reasons make sense too.
- deleted 17y ago
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- alabut 17y ago
  You can be separated by distance and still easily use paper to quickly iterate through ideas. 37signals themselves do this - they're geographically distributed yet use Sharpies to think through rough interface ideas: http://37signals.com/svn/posts/466-sketching-with-a-sharpie http://37signals.com/svn/posts/466-sketching-with-a-sharpie http://37signals.com/svn/posts/1880-the-different-sketch-styles-of-the-designers-at-37signals http://37signals.com/svn/posts/1880-the-different-sketch-sty... All of my freelance clients in the last few years have been startups in the Bay Area (where I live) so I understand all of those reasons and the benefits of proximity. Hell, I wouldn't have moved up here if I hadn't read Hackers And Painters in 2005 - I wanted to be where the action was. But I've been slowly doing less and less on-site work and have gotten to the point where I don't do much more than weekly meetings and not even that with some clients, so I can't help but realize that I could've technically been anywhere in the world for all intents and purposes. And these aren't low-paying entry level portfolio builders either, it's real paying work with the same challenges as always. So again, are the reasons for working with a local designer more important than overall skill and portfolio?