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>I still find the supposition that Facebook was supposed to defy a court order hilarious. For me at least: it's the idea of making a public pronouncement that

>I still find the supposition that Facebook was supposed to defy a court order hilarious. For me at least: it's the idea of making a public pronouncement that you support some political view (because that's easy). Then you do something that, at least on the face of it, goes against that position when there could be business repercussions (because that's hard). Why not just keep your mouth shut?

quaunaut 12y ago
Because this is the real world, and no matter what the internet tells you, nuance matters. I don't like Mark Zuckerberg. I think his business practices regularly register as complete bullshit, and furthermore I can't quite tell what the hell they spend their time doing because since about 2009 Facebook has consistently become more and more of something I don't want anything to do with. But there is not one bit of me that doesn't believe Mark really does support free speech everywhere. He didn't have to say that, but he did. He made that effort, even though he knew it opened his flank. And of course he knew that, because he's not a complete idiot. This is the real world. Where while complying with the law, you protest it, because that's how you act in a civilized society.
- cryoshon 12y ago
  Compliance with protest equals compliance and a certainty that you will keep complying and eventually grow tired of protesting. "How you act in a civilized society" leads to normalization and eventual acceptance of problems caused by compliance.
  - quaunaut 12y ago
    I just don't see how in the face of 2014's continuation of the Civil Rights movement you can say something like that with a straight face.
  - LLWM 12y ago
    They're only "problems" to you because you disagree with the legitimate democratically elected government of another country.
- hnnewguy 12y ago
  >Where while complying with the law, you protest it, because that's how you act in a civilized society. Lots of talk in your comment about the "real world", without a hint of irony that our "civilized society" only exists in its current form thanks to revolutions and wars. The idea that protests should only occur within the confines of the law tells me you have a bit to learn about the "real world". >He made that effort I know the Facebook crowd might think so, but saying "Je Suis Charlie" takes effort?

quaunaut 12y ago

Because this is the real world, and no matter what the internet tells you, nuance matters. I don't like Mark Zuckerberg. I think his business practices regularly register as complete bullshit, and furthermore I can't quite tell what the hell they spend their time doing because since about 2009 Facebook has consistently become more and more of something I don't want anything to do with. But there is not one bit of me that doesn't believe Mark really does support free speech everywhere. He didn't have to say that, but he did. He made that effort, even though he knew it opened his flank. And of course he knew that, because he's not a complete idiot. This is the real world. Where while complying with the law, you protest it, because that's how you act in a civilized society.

cryoshon 12y ago
Compliance with protest equals compliance and a certainty that you will keep complying and eventually grow tired of protesting. "How you act in a civilized society" leads to normalization and eventual acceptance of problems caused by compliance.
- quaunaut 12y ago
  I just don't see how in the face of 2014's continuation of the Civil Rights movement you can say something like that with a straight face.
- LLWM 12y ago
  They're only "problems" to you because you disagree with the legitimate democratically elected government of another country.
hnnewguy 12y ago
>Where while complying with the law, you protest it, because that's how you act in a civilized society. Lots of talk in your comment about the "real world", without a hint of irony that our "civilized society" only exists in its current form thanks to revolutions and wars. The idea that protests should only occur within the confines of the law tells me you have a bit to learn about the "real world". >He made that effort I know the Facebook crowd might think so, but saying "Je Suis Charlie" takes effort?