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Not letting a country 'bully' or dictate a site like Facebook is one thing but a valid legal request that has been granted by a court in a given country is some
by opt1k 12y ago
Not letting a country 'bully' or dictate a site like Facebook is one thing but a valid legal request that has been granted by a court in a given country is something completely different.
People seem to think that Facebook is doing this just to bow to pressure from certain groups but in reality it is just that they have been legally instructed to do so, if they were to fail to do this then access to Facebook would likely be severed by the Turkish ISP's under another legal order.
- nailer 12y agoI think we understand that FB access would be denied in Turkey if they didn't remove the posts. We simply disagree that this is reasonable justification for removing the posts.
- 100timesthis 12y agoFacebook doesn't have phisical presence[1] on turkey, so why do they obey Turkeys laws? [1]https://www.facebook.com/careers#locations https://www.facebook.com/careers#locations
- pdabbadabba 12y agoBecause they provide a service in Turkey and would like to continue signing up Turkish users. The internet, as you have observed, certainly does present interesting legal and, in particular, jurisdictional conundrums. But, for better or worse, it is well established that you do not need a physical pretense in a country to be bound by their laws.
- 100timesthis 12y agoas I am not in turkey and the content is not illegal in my country why do I have to receive the censorship as well? [EDIT] If facebook is advocating the freedom of speech I would expect that they would show the content at least to the users that are not under censorship.
- pdabbadabba 12y agoI think this is a fair question, though it has little to do with the jurisdiction of Turkish courts. There are two very different possible answers: it could be that the Turkish order requires photos to be removed, not just hidden from Turkish users or it could be that Facebook isn't set up to hide content in some regions and not others -- censoring the images in only a few jurisdictions would take work. If it's the former, I think there's no sense in being annoyed with Facebook. We should direct our ire at the Turkish court. If it's the latter, though, perhaps people are right to call Facebook out for not making this happen.
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