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Remember, Apple needs to target the low end to succeed in China. They need to put out the crappiest, cheapest phone they possibly can otherwise Samsung and Xiao

Remember, Apple needs to target the low end to succeed in China. They need to put out the crappiest, cheapest phone they possibly can otherwise Samsung and Xiaomi will eat their lunch. Edit: Obvious sarcasm is apparently not obvious enough.

xj9 12y ago
Do you see these numbers? Why would Apple care about low-end, low margin sales in China?
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Osmium 12y ago
They don't seem to be doing too badly in China. (Armchair opinion but: I think devaluing their brand in China would be the worst thing they could do.) "74.5 million iPhones, 46% growth over last year. Unit sales up 44% in US, up 97% in BRIC countries. Sales doubled yoy in China, Brazil and Singapore." and "Performance of Greater China was particularly impressive with revenue up 70%."
sidko 12y ago
Apple doesn't need to target the low end. They seem to be doing just fine, making the largest quarterly profit in history by not indulging in a race to bottom in search of market share.
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loganu 12y ago
Does Apple care about beating crappy Samsungs in market share? Probably not. There will always be a market for low end/ cheap/ burner phones. There's little room for margins, and those customers don't buy into the ecosystem as much. Comparing ecosystem revenue per user, Apple's doing fine. They sell a top-end phone to people that will pay a premium, and continue to buy apps and media. It's kind of like telling BMW that they need to compete with Kia. Sure, more market share would be nice, but it's not necessary. If iPhone's are seen as a luxury item/ status symbol, then there's little advertising needed. Plus, Apple could still sell iPhone 4s and 5s to compete with lower end. (I think)
capkutay 12y ago
They also need to open source iOS (also sarcasm)
- freshyill 12y ago
  And a netbook.
  - 72deluxe 12y ago
    This made me laugh because I remember netbooks being a fad where everyone had one and tried working on an underpowered Atom CPU with a tiny battery, a tiny low-res screen running IE under XP with a billion browser toolbars installed, reducing their visible browser space to about 20px at the bottom. Oh the sad memories. Strangely, the MacBook Air is essentially a Netbook, just better made and not in the "race to the bottom" of both price and quality.
    - 72deluxe 12y ago
      Just replying to myself as I have been downvoted with no replies (how annoying that is), but I wanted to stress that I think the MacBook Air is a GREAT machine and only compared it to Netbooks because of its small convenient form factor, which the netbook was trying to accomplish, albeit with limited success. I had an Acer Aspire One and enjoyed using it (I even made it a Hackintosh and it ran OSX 10.6 but kinda slowly, although with accelerated graphics thanks to the Intel inside it) but I am not under any illusion that netbooks were a fad. I was surprised they did so well and how effectively Intel stole the market overnight that Via should have had with their EPIA boards!
Alterlife 12y ago
I know you said sarcasm, but Apple is selling the last gen iphones at a competitive price against Samsung mid range in India. For example: the iPhone 4S, 5c and 5s are 17,500 and 23,000 37500 Indian Rupees respectively. Compare that to the Galaxy S4 at ~26000 grand 2 at 17000, galaxy note 3 at 34000. Atleast in India, the last gen Apple phones seem to be priced competitively with the last gen Samsung phones. This is just comparing the lowest models, and not getting into the specs, ofcourse.
- desdiv 12y ago
  Are you sure you didn't mix up the model numbers? These sites [0][1] are saying it's the iPhone 5c that's 37500 Indian Rupees, which is 609 USD. In comparison, Walmart is offering the 5c, contract-free, at $549.[2] [0] http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/iphone-5c-8gb-variant-launched-in-india-at-rs-37500-529611 http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/iphone-5c-8gb-variant-l... [1] http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/priced-at-rs-37500-will-apples-8-gb-iphone-5c-win-any-hearts-224381.html http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/priced-at-rs-37500-w... [2] http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2428171,00.asp http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2428171,00.asp

xj9 12y ago

Do you see these numbers? Why would Apple care about low-end, low margin sales in China?

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Osmium 12y ago

They don't seem to be doing too badly in China. (Armchair opinion but: I think devaluing their brand in China would be the worst thing they could do.) "74.5 million iPhones, 46% growth over last year. Unit sales up 44% in US, up 97% in BRIC countries. Sales doubled yoy in China, Brazil and Singapore." and "Performance of Greater China was particularly impressive with revenue up 70%."

sidko 12y ago

Apple doesn't need to target the low end. They seem to be doing just fine, making the largest quarterly profit in history by not indulging in a race to bottom in search of market share.

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loganu 12y ago

Does Apple care about beating crappy Samsungs in market share? Probably not. There will always be a market for low end/ cheap/ burner phones. There's little room for margins, and those customers don't buy into the ecosystem as much. Comparing ecosystem revenue per user, Apple's doing fine. They sell a top-end phone to people that will pay a premium, and continue to buy apps and media. It's kind of like telling BMW that they need to compete with Kia. Sure, more market share would be nice, but it's not necessary. If iPhone's are seen as a luxury item/ status symbol, then there's little advertising needed. Plus, Apple could still sell iPhone 4s and 5s to compete with lower end. (I think)

capkutay 12y ago

They also need to open source iOS (also sarcasm)

freshyill 12y ago
And a netbook.
- 72deluxe 12y ago
  This made me laugh because I remember netbooks being a fad where everyone had one and tried working on an underpowered Atom CPU with a tiny battery, a tiny low-res screen running IE under XP with a billion browser toolbars installed, reducing their visible browser space to about 20px at the bottom. Oh the sad memories. Strangely, the MacBook Air is essentially a Netbook, just better made and not in the "race to the bottom" of both price and quality.
  - 72deluxe 12y ago
    Just replying to myself as I have been downvoted with no replies (how annoying that is), but I wanted to stress that I think the MacBook Air is a GREAT machine and only compared it to Netbooks because of its small convenient form factor, which the netbook was trying to accomplish, albeit with limited success. I had an Acer Aspire One and enjoyed using it (I even made it a Hackintosh and it ran OSX 10.6 but kinda slowly, although with accelerated graphics thanks to the Intel inside it) but I am not under any illusion that netbooks were a fad. I was surprised they did so well and how effectively Intel stole the market overnight that Via should have had with their EPIA boards!

Alterlife 12y ago

I know you said sarcasm, but Apple is selling the last gen iphones at a competitive price against Samsung mid range in India. For example: the iPhone 4S, 5c and 5s are 17,500 and 23,000 37500 Indian Rupees respectively. Compare that to the Galaxy S4 at ~26000 grand 2 at 17000, galaxy note 3 at 34000. Atleast in India, the last gen Apple phones seem to be priced competitively with the last gen Samsung phones. This is just comparing the lowest models, and not getting into the specs, ofcourse.

desdiv 12y ago
Are you sure you didn't mix up the model numbers? These sites [0][1] are saying it's the iPhone 5c that's 37500 Indian Rupees, which is 609 USD. In comparison, Walmart is offering the 5c, contract-free, at $549.[2] [0] http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/iphone-5c-8gb-variant-launched-in-india-at-rs-37500-529611 http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/iphone-5c-8gb-variant-l... [1] http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/priced-at-rs-37500-will-apples-8-gb-iphone-5c-win-any-hearts-224381.html http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/priced-at-rs-37500-w... [2] http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2428171,00.asp http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2428171,00.asp