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I'm not sure the analysis is correct at all... I own both an iPhone and a MacBook Pro, and neither of them quite serve the purpose a netbook would. I'm conside

by imok20 17y ago

I'm not sure the analysis is correct at all... I own both an iPhone and a MacBook Pro, and neither of them quite serve the purpose a netbook would. I'm considering getting an Asus netbook within the next 6 months should I hear no word of an Apple version. I'd rather run a lean OSX than Linux, but I'd be fine with Linux if it meant I'd have a portable full-sized keyboard with nice i/o options and a big-ish screen. Perhaps the plastic Macbooks would compete with an Apple netbook, but it's hard to believe that a significant number of people who already own a Mac and people who wouldn't considering buying a Mac wouldn't purchase a netbook. Correlation != causation, Gruber. Unreasoned speculation and a small assortment of media articles do not a convincing argument make.

jacquesm 17y ago
I'm running Ubuntu 'NBR' (note book remix) and it's an amazing little package, highly recommended. The netbook I use is one of the small acers, it has a 3G card slot and NBR recognizes and works with the 3G modem better than windows did on the same machine.
- axod 17y ago
  ++ for Ubuntu NBR. I got my daughter an Acer Aspire One netbook. It came with a horrible linux distro (Forget the name, not a popular one). I installed Ubuntu NBR and it's great now. Much faster, and the UI/window manager with NBR is very nicely done to fit on a small display. The only thing I can't get working yet is the SD card slots :/
unalone 17y ago
The claim chowder wasn't just "I'd like Apple to make a netbook." The claim chowder was "If Apple doesn't do this, they are fucked." Apple didn't do it; Apple wasn't fucked.
- imok20 17y ago
  I'm not disputing that, at all. I'm saying that if Apple HAD done it, they wouldn't be fucked. Gruber suggests that if they had made a netbook, they would have lost money. (Been fucked, in the lingua franca, evidently.)
  - jacobolus 17y ago
    > Gruber suggests ... No, he doesn't.
  - imok20 17y ago
    He outright typed it, doesn't just suggest. Forgive me... "As Jason Snell put it, imagine how much money Apple could have lost if only it had a netbook."
    - jacobolus 17y ago
      No, you are mis-reading: the “analysts” said that Apple would lose money if they didn’t make a netbook; instead, they made boatloads of money. Snell is snarkily pointing out that said analysts got things precisely backwards backwards by rhetorically asking how much they’d “lose” with a netbook. There’s no suggestion that they’d actually have lost money, or gained money, from a netbook. It’s pure snark, posed as a counterfactual rhetorical question. No one can really know how things would have gone with an Apple netbook: the point is only to call out those who second-guessed Apple’s strategy and have now been made fools of.
  - unalone 17y ago
    Well, you make less money off a netbook sale than Apple does from a Mac sale. He points to Snell's tweet about that. But beyond that, he just points to the people who said Apple HAD to make a netbook. (Obviously he disagrees with the concept of netbooks, but that doesn't have to do with the claim chowder.)

by imok20 17y ago

jacquesm 17y ago

I'm running Ubuntu 'NBR' (note book remix) and it's an amazing little package, highly recommended. The netbook I use is one of the small acers, it has a 3G card slot and NBR recognizes and works with the 3G modem better than windows did on the same machine.

axod 17y ago
++ for Ubuntu NBR. I got my daughter an Acer Aspire One netbook. It came with a horrible linux distro (Forget the name, not a popular one). I installed Ubuntu NBR and it's great now. Much faster, and the UI/window manager with NBR is very nicely done to fit on a small display. The only thing I can't get working yet is the SD card slots :/

unalone 17y ago

The claim chowder wasn't just "I'd like Apple to make a netbook." The claim chowder was "If Apple doesn't do this, they are fucked." Apple didn't do it; Apple wasn't fucked.

imok20 17y ago
I'm not disputing that, at all. I'm saying that if Apple HAD done it, they wouldn't be fucked. Gruber suggests that if they had made a netbook, they would have lost money. (Been fucked, in the lingua franca, evidently.)
- jacobolus 17y ago
  > Gruber suggests ... No, he doesn't.
- imok20 17y ago
  He outright typed it, doesn't just suggest. Forgive me... "As Jason Snell put it, imagine how much money Apple could have lost if only it had a netbook."
  - jacobolus 17y ago
    No, you are mis-reading: the “analysts” said that Apple would lose money if they didn’t make a netbook; instead, they made boatloads of money. Snell is snarkily pointing out that said analysts got things precisely backwards backwards by rhetorically asking how much they’d “lose” with a netbook. There’s no suggestion that they’d actually have lost money, or gained money, from a netbook. It’s pure snark, posed as a counterfactual rhetorical question. No one can really know how things would have gone with an Apple netbook: the point is only to call out those who second-guessed Apple’s strategy and have now been made fools of.
- unalone 17y ago
  Well, you make less money off a netbook sale than Apple does from a Mac sale. He points to Snell's tweet about that. But beyond that, he just points to the people who said Apple HAD to make a netbook. (Obviously he disagrees with the concept of netbooks, but that doesn't have to do with the claim chowder.)