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> How can Zuckerberg say "Je Suis Charlie", and then censor the very kind of content that Charlie Hebdo published? Did you see which politicians and world lead

> How can Zuckerberg say "Je Suis Charlie", and then censor the very kind of content that Charlie Hebdo published? Did you see which politicians and world leaders where at the Je Suis Charlie march ? Did you see what laws are currently passed in France in response to the killings ? It's just posture and hypocrisy.

nothrabannosir 12y ago
Yes, that's why he's calling it out. What's your point? Should we not care about this case, because others are abusing it as well? Two wrongs don't make a right. Two hundred wrongs neither. It sounds trite, but you're changing the subject. And when every post like OP's has a reply of the tone "Pff why do you even bother naming and shaming one guy who did wrong; don't you know everybody's making a farce of Je Suis Charlie?", it conveys hopelessness. It's demoralizing and it's a conversation killer. We get it. Every politician is a hypocrite. Okay. Can we stop using it as a condescending dismissal of valid points, now, please? I, for one, would love to know more about the specific details of Zuckerberg's alleged hypocrisy, so I can judge for myself. Edit: ps: Upvoted you because I agree. I just want to highlight that your post should not be taken as a rebuttal against OP.
- conradfr 12y ago
  I didn't want to call OP out, I was just surprised that he was himself surprised by the dichotomy between Zuckerberg public stance and Facebook actions. And yes I'm glad this kind of behavior is exposed but I also don't expect companies to be freedom warriors.
panarky 12y ago
That's right. Leaders who impose draconian censorship on their own populations and throw journalists in jail are literally leading the parade for free expression. Leaders like Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. So add Zuckerberg to this ignominious list. He collaborates with these regimes to repress their citizens, then sanctimoniously shouts "I am Charlie" from the world's biggest megaphone. Makes me physically sick.

nothrabannosir 12y ago

Yes, that's why he's calling it out. What's your point? Should we not care about this case, because others are abusing it as well? Two wrongs don't make a right. Two hundred wrongs neither. It sounds trite, but you're changing the subject. And when every post like OP's has a reply of the tone "Pff why do you even bother naming and shaming one guy who did wrong; don't you know everybody's making a farce of Je Suis Charlie?", it conveys hopelessness. It's demoralizing and it's a conversation killer. We get it. Every politician is a hypocrite. Okay. Can we stop using it as a condescending dismissal of valid points, now, please? I, for one, would love to know more about the specific details of Zuckerberg's alleged hypocrisy, so I can judge for myself. Edit: ps: Upvoted you because I agree. I just want to highlight that your post should not be taken as a rebuttal against OP.

conradfr 12y ago
I didn't want to call OP out, I was just surprised that he was himself surprised by the dichotomy between Zuckerberg public stance and Facebook actions. And yes I'm glad this kind of behavior is exposed but I also don't expect companies to be freedom warriors.

panarky 12y ago

That's right. Leaders who impose draconian censorship on their own populations and throw journalists in jail are literally leading the parade for free expression. Leaders like Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. So add Zuckerberg to this ignominious list. He collaborates with these regimes to repress their citizens, then sanctimoniously shouts "I am Charlie" from the world's biggest megaphone. Makes me physically sick.