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>The view here in Europe is that we've basically given up on Turkey as a secular partner, The EU long ago snubbed Turkey, well before the autocratic tendencies
by IndianAstronaut 12y ago
>The view here in Europe is that we've basically given up on Turkey as a secular partner,
The EU long ago snubbed Turkey, well before the autocratic tendencies of Erdogan appeared. If the EU reached out then and put Turkey officialy on a path to membership, it may have helped turn the course. Erdogan saw that he got a better reception aligning towards the Muslim middle east than secular Europe.
- bsaul 12y agoThere you go again ( not you, personnaly)... People voting for or agreeing with radical islamism has unfortunately nothing to do with us, or richness, or education. It's an internal struggle inside the muslim world between secular and fundamentalism of the same kind we had in the 17th and 18th century. If we had accepted turkey in europe, nothing says we wouldn't have ended up with the exact same situation, except without border control between us and them.
- toyg 12y ago> The EU long ago snubbed Turkey, well before the autocratic tendencies of Erdogan appeared. It takes two to tango. Subsequent Turkish governments basically refused to address the problems of both Cyprus and Kurdistan. Northern Cyprus in particular needs a real roadmap to normalization, you can't ask the EU to include "far west" territories. Everything else could have been sorted out one way or the other.