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"A new browser for our friends", as in the developer community? That seems like a lot of effort to build a browser for a very small group of users. The sad tru

by jblok 12y ago

"A new browser for our friends", as in the developer community? That seems like a lot of effort to build a browser for a very small group of users. The sad truth of browsers is that most people use whatever comes on their machine. A lot of times that would be IE - lots of people I know/companies in the UK still use IE out of a lack of knowing any better. Some more savvy users will use Chrome/FF but that's because they realise it has a lot of benefits over IE or are shamed into not using IE. This doesn't really offer any 'wow' features that entice me as a web developer to try it, so your average user is even less likely to try it. And really, when making a browser, your target needs to be the masses because otherwise no web dev is going to support your browser if it requires even the tiniest of special treatment in their code.

werid 12y ago
In an interview with digi.no, they speak of feeling abandoned by Opera when they switched to their new chrome version, and that they weren't alone. Maybe that's their friends. Old Opera 12 users.
Aqwis 12y ago
>The sad truth of browsers is that most people use whatever comes on their machine. Clearly not, as statistics show that IE is no longer the most popular browser in any country in Europe.
- jblok 12y ago
  True, but this comes after many years and a monumental effort by Google, who are backed by huge financial resources.
  - malaporte 12y ago
    Indeed I remember seeing ads for Chrome on the Paris subway, back when it wasn't yet as ubiquitous as it is now.
jarcane 12y ago
"A new browser for our friends", as in the developer community? The "Opera community" is, or was, a thing. Opera spent years cultivating an actual community around their users, with forums and chat and social networking features galore. Then they shut it down last year. The Vivaldi folks have also started Vivaldi.net, which appears to be an attempt to keep that community going elsewhere now that Opera has essentially axed everything that made people love them in favor of being an also-ran Chromium fork.
- foooh 12y ago
  The Opera forums weren't shut down. They were moved to a new location. The chat still exists as well. The My Opera site was what made people love Opera? Uh... No. Opera 12 had tens of millions of users, and hardly a fraction of those visited that site.
  - jarcane 12y ago
    Well, I was also referring to the browser itself, which is now a useless shadow of its former self.

by jblok 12y ago

werid 12y ago

In an interview with digi.no, they speak of feeling abandoned by Opera when they switched to their new chrome version, and that they weren't alone. Maybe that's their friends. Old Opera 12 users.

Aqwis 12y ago

>The sad truth of browsers is that most people use whatever comes on their machine. Clearly not, as statistics show that IE is no longer the most popular browser in any country in Europe.

jblok 12y ago
True, but this comes after many years and a monumental effort by Google, who are backed by huge financial resources.
- malaporte 12y ago
  Indeed I remember seeing ads for Chrome on the Paris subway, back when it wasn't yet as ubiquitous as it is now.

jarcane 12y ago

"A new browser for our friends", as in the developer community? The "Opera community" is, or was, a thing. Opera spent years cultivating an actual community around their users, with forums and chat and social networking features galore. Then they shut it down last year. The Vivaldi folks have also started Vivaldi.net, which appears to be an attempt to keep that community going elsewhere now that Opera has essentially axed everything that made people love them in favor of being an also-ran Chromium fork.

foooh 12y ago
The Opera forums weren't shut down. They were moved to a new location. The chat still exists as well. The My Opera site was what made people love Opera? Uh... No. Opera 12 had tens of millions of users, and hardly a fraction of those visited that site.
- jarcane 12y ago
  Well, I was also referring to the browser itself, which is now a useless shadow of its former self.