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I'm from Turkey and this situation is just pathetic. It's just "if visitor.country = 'turkey' then post.visibility = false". Every person in the world except

• bsaul 12y ago
  You should revolt, period. It may mean risking your life, but if people like you don't and instead choose to run away, then your country is going to fall for an unknown period into a medieval age. Read everything you can about the french resistance, start creating networks, go underground, and organize ties with foreign countries ready to help you. But don't run away.
  • draugadrotten 12y ago
    > You should revolt, period. It may mean risking your life, but if people like you don't and instead choose to run away, then your country is going to fall for an unknown period into a medieval age. Such an arrogant view of the world. The chosen route of Turkey is to preserve the serenity and innocence of it's population, by prohibiting pictures of the prophet much like wardrobe malfunctions are prohibited in the USA. This is not medieval at all , but rather a more refined approach to civilisation than your american upbringing has taught you to appreciate.
    • LunaSea 12y ago
      Limiting freedom of expression is never refined.
      • draugadrotten 12y ago
        > Limiting freedom of expression is never refined. Only the most unrefined brute speaks what's on his mind without limits. I would say that it is highly refined to know when limits should be applied, and when they should not.
        • rabbyte 12y ago
          The difference is restraining yourself vs being restrained. A brutish response to the latter is the civil response.
    • bsaul 12y ago
      I'm french, and we recently discovered how "preserving the serenity and innocence of a population" involved very different means for radical islamist than what we usually think. Censoring childish humour in the name of religion only prooves how mentaly unevolved those people are. Nothing else.
      • icebraining 12y ago
        Unlike your countrymen banning Dieudonné's humor? I think it's best to avoid expressions like "mentally unevolved".
        • bsaul 12y ago
          To my knowledge, this guy is still running shows and you can still go see him freely. But i don't quite see the relation between the two i must say (unless you're confusing race and history with philosophical opinions or religions). As for the expression "evolved", i think it's perfectly suited. It takes a lot of time and "evolution" for a civilisation to accept to not respond to different opinions with physical constraints. It's what we call a "modern" or "evolved" society.
        • Jugurtha 12y ago
          Yeap.. Just light hearted humor.. It's funny that light hearted humor depicting Muslims looks strangely close to the way Europe used to depict Jews: The maniac facial expression and ugly face, the crazy hair and beard, the huge nose). If people are so shocked that people are so shocked by a cartoon, why aren't the people who are shocked shocked when people are shocked by a cartoon making fun of Jews. If anyone drew such a thing, it would be "obvious" that you "must" be shocked. If not, you're anti-Jew and a Nazi. The cartoonist would lose his career, would be called antisemite (which is a stupid word, since Arabs are semites, too)... The cartoonist would have to appologize and say how stupid he feels, and then take it upon himself to prove he's not by overcompensating (the usual "I have Jewish friends" which, by the way, I have too). Just search on Google, most of what you'll find will be newspapers appologizing for running a caricature that I don't even think Jews deemed "antisemite". You know the saying: "Plus royaliste que le Roi". More royalist than the King. Where's the light-hearted fun and freedom of expression, now? I thought they were just cartoons, no? And about France's freedom.. It is funny that the religious symbols debate about ostentatory religious symbols doesn't include Jews. And the usual disclaimer: I'm not criticizing Jews, I'm criticizing a double standard. Anyone thinks we live in a fair world where racism/sexism/etc doesn't exist? You don't get to organize a minute of silence in the name of freedom of expression, and then fire and prosecute people who don't stand. You don't get to talk about freedom of expression when anyone humoring anyone is fine, until they're humoring Jews.. Isn't it just light hearted laughter? What changes? You don't get to say every human life counts the same when not long ago, more than 150 people died in a Peshawar school. More than 130 where children. Did it stop the world as did Charlie Hebdo? Did heads of states gather in unison and march for the right of a child to live? I live in a country that was torn apart by terrorism. I survived many bombs, many gunfights... It amuses me when the U.S. and Europe think they're being targeted by Terrorism: You've seen nothing compared, and you don't get it. Islamist terrorists kill mostly Muslims. And that country was colonized by France, for a 132 years. My father was a political prisoner. My grand-parents were tortured and murdered. We became independant just 53 years ago. I mean, 1962 wasn't that long ago, right? It wasn't like a barbaric age or something... And yet..
    • guard-of-terra 12y ago
      I can only hope this route will lead you to barbarism, poverty and assimilation by more successful cultures.
    • girvo 12y ago
      No, frankly, I consider it medieval. Of course, I consider the uproar around nudity in the US medieval too.
      • Jugurtha 12y ago
        Well, I don't know what you mean by Medieval. It depends where. Some places where evolved that time.