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What I find interesting is that no matter how hard I google, I can't find this joke anywhere. Heard this story before and to this day curiosity is killing me.

emhart 12y ago
The ad-lib appears to be included in the provided PDF.
- gear54rus 12y ago
  Oh so that's the one, and that's this same presentation... Interesting. I for one, find the kicking out hardly justified.
- scintill76 12y ago
  Hmm, "ad-lib" -- given that slide, what did they plan to say? Anyway, it's interesting to me that the pics of mostly-naked men and ASCII Goatse hardly get mentioned, overshadowed by a verbal remark. Maybe the con has changed its policy in response, but did they preview the slide deck?
  - steakejjs 12y ago
    I don't know of any security conferences that preview slides. original research is presented regularly which means your hard work might leak by conference organizers who can't keep their mouths shut. Alsp, many speakers are working on their slides and talk minutes before going on. These talks get finished notoriously late
  - makomk 12y ago
    Apparently they got in trouble for the ASCII Goatse too.
    - scintill76 12y ago
      Yeah, if "got in trouble" == "it was mentioned in a few tweets", but mostly it seems focused on the trans remark. They quite literally assault the eyes of everyone in the room, and it only gets passing mention compared to a non-targeted[0], verbal insult to a certain class of people. Should the severity of an offense really be proportional to the oppression its victims are suffering? [0] I mean they didn't point to a trans person in the room and say, "You're sticking out!"
- MichaelGG 12y ago
  And is pretty much a statement of fact. "Sticking out like a white guy in a Mayan village" would probably have been non notable so I don't follow how it's offensive by switching the subjects.
  - ryanlol 12y ago
    Mentioning in minorities in contexts that aren't explicitly positive is pretty much a holocaust-tier offense.
    - mfukar 12y ago
      Well, it isn't, but p.c. proponents certainly seem to make it seem that way. :-)
lostsock 12y ago
It's on page 30 of the PDF that the HN submission links to.
- mirimir 12y ago
  More cogent is the comment on page 17: "I wanted to remind people about Eldo Kim here ( the Harvard bomb threat hoax ). He had pretty good Concealment ( was using Tor ) but had no cover to explain WHY he was using Tor at that time, and then gave it up under questioning."

emhart 12y ago

The ad-lib appears to be included in the provided PDF.

gear54rus 12y ago
Oh so that's the one, and that's this same presentation... Interesting. I for one, find the kicking out hardly justified.
scintill76 12y ago
Hmm, "ad-lib" -- given that slide, what did they plan to say? Anyway, it's interesting to me that the pics of mostly-naked men and ASCII Goatse hardly get mentioned, overshadowed by a verbal remark. Maybe the con has changed its policy in response, but did they preview the slide deck?
- steakejjs 12y ago
  I don't know of any security conferences that preview slides. original research is presented regularly which means your hard work might leak by conference organizers who can't keep their mouths shut. Alsp, many speakers are working on their slides and talk minutes before going on. These talks get finished notoriously late
- makomk 12y ago
  Apparently they got in trouble for the ASCII Goatse too.
  - scintill76 12y ago
    Yeah, if "got in trouble" == "it was mentioned in a few tweets", but mostly it seems focused on the trans remark. They quite literally assault the eyes of everyone in the room, and it only gets passing mention compared to a non-targeted[0], verbal insult to a certain class of people. Should the severity of an offense really be proportional to the oppression its victims are suffering? [0] I mean they didn't point to a trans person in the room and say, "You're sticking out!"
MichaelGG 12y ago
And is pretty much a statement of fact. "Sticking out like a white guy in a Mayan village" would probably have been non notable so I don't follow how it's offensive by switching the subjects.
- ryanlol 12y ago
  Mentioning in minorities in contexts that aren't explicitly positive is pretty much a holocaust-tier offense.
  - mfukar 12y ago
    Well, it isn't, but p.c. proponents certainly seem to make it seem that way. :-)

lostsock 12y ago

It's on page 30 of the PDF that the HN submission links to.

mirimir 12y ago
More cogent is the comment on page 17: "I wanted to remind people about Eldo Kim here ( the Harvard bomb threat hoax ). He had pretty good Concealment ( was using Tor ) but had no cover to explain WHY he was using Tor at that time, and then gave it up under questioning."