Just a note: if you're going to bow out of a conversation you don't feel is productive there's no shame in that, we all do it from time to time for a variety of

Just a note: if you're going to bow out of a conversation you don't feel is productive there's no shame in that, we all do it from time to time for a variety of reasons. You don't have to save face by suggesting that you're reasonable and I'm not, you're coherent and I'm not, you dealt with all my arguments and I dealt with none of yours, etc. I don't find your arguments compelling, you don't like mine. Whatever, it happens.