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by andymacd 12y ago
flash developer
- Alupis 12y agoNo, unfortunately there's still quite a few of those lurking around.
- jacquesm 12y agoOld platforms never die, they just go into maintenance. Even mumps is still around in quite a few hospitals.
- wiredfool 12y agoYep. Neighbor of mine was looking for MUMPS programmers about 6 months ago.
- jacquesm 12y agoPlease do not give out my contact info ;) Seriously, dont. One of my worst experiences was working for some bank that used MUMPS and trying to recover the (accidentally) erased editor string before someone would notice that it was gone. (Yes, the editor is a string, and it behaves just like any other string and globals are auto persisted to disk so if you wipe the editor string then much good luck to you.)
- angersock 12y agoHow the hell did a bank end up with MUMPS? It's a disease primarily limited to the healthcare system, in my experience.
- jacquesm 12y agoBanks and healthcare share a number of elements one of which is large budgets and those peddling MUMPS and associated (expensive consultancy) services saw an opportunity and ran with it. The fact that it eats up your hardware probably didn't go unnoticed and I'm pretty sure that in that world 'kickback' isn't a dirty word.
- wiredfool 12y agoYeah. I think I'd file MUMPS under 'lifetime employment for my worst enemy'.
- nawitus 12y agoThe upcoming Finnish patient information system will apparently be written in mumps. The total estimated cost of the system is 1.8 billion euros.
- jacquesm 12y agoThat, for want of a better word is absolutely incredible. I keep using that word and I think I know what it means but really, what were they smoking? MUMPS (har har) has it's origins in the medical world so there are a lot more people versed in mumps in that world that have domain expertise regarding hospitals but you'd hope that that chapter of the Cambrian explosion in programming was closed by now and that someone would come to their senses and would say: absolutely no more new development in MUMPS. (And 'Mapper' for that matter.) They were dead-ends 30 years ago, they're not magically going to be better in 2015. Of course it would be hard to get rid of 1.8B euros using any other available technology so maybe that's were we can find part of the answer of why this happened. Maintaining MUMPS code is an interesting exercise in pasta consumption, the language more or less dictates it. See also: http://thedailywtf.com/articles/A_Case_of_the_MUMPS http://thedailywtf.com/articles/A_Case_of_the_MUMPS
- steventhedev 12y agoHmmmm.... Anyone want to build an LLVM backend + FFI module? Probably worth a small fortune to shops that want to migrate out of MUMPS
- jacquesm 12y agoGood luck with that. MUMPS is an interesting beast. Before you embark on that I suggest you look into some medium sized MUMPS based project to get an idea of the kind of flavor of madness you'll be engaging. But I agree with you that if you can pull this off you'll be doing well financially. Even better: a MUMPS -> Java automatic translator (or maybe Python or Ruby, but I think the Java would be an easier sell in that market).
- cafard 12y ago
- pconner 12y agoSome of the largest EMR vendors in the world still use MUMPS on their backends. Even as frontend platforms change, MUMPS seems to be eternal.
- smacktoward 12y ago"Flash developer" isn't so much a job as a dark, unholy religion.