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I can't help but notice your username, your critique, and then think of this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/11151478/Could-you-have-been-a-c

by Steltek 12y ago

I can't help but notice your username, your critique, and then think of this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/11151478/Could-you-have-been-a-codebreaker-at-Bletchley-Park.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/11151478/Co... (WW2 Bletchley Park using a crossword puzzle as a recruiting tool).

Turing_Machine 12y ago
Here's the difference: Bletchley Park didn't have anything else. There were no programmers. There were no github repos. There wasn't anything, really. All kinds of proxy measures used to be used (for instance, I've heard there's a correlation between musical talent and programming ability). Those measures were better than nothing, but not better than a good measure. Edit, because I want to amplify on this a bit. In the absence of any other measure, I'm willing to believe that someone who's good at brain teasers is somewhat more likely to be a good programmer than someone who isn't (though the correlation isn't going to be perfect, by any means). The thing is that I can also believe that someone who's good at brain teasers is more likely to be a good surgeon or mechanic than someone who isn't. Yet we don't use this type of question when we're interviewing surgeons or mechanics. Why not?
- endtime 12y ago
  One possible answer to that question, presumably not the one you're thinking of, is that those jobs are largely mechanical and require less creativity or generalized problem-solving ability than software engineering. Edit: I don't mean to suggest that I think these kinds of questions are good for hiring software engineers, just that your argument for why that isn't the case may have some holes in it.
haliax 12y ago
Before World War 2 crypto was done by linguists, not mathematicians. A lot of the work was like solving cryptgrams. So a crossword puzzle was actually a pretty reasonable test.

by Steltek 12y ago

Turing_Machine 12y ago

Here's the difference: Bletchley Park didn't have anything else. There were no programmers. There were no github repos. There wasn't anything, really. All kinds of proxy measures used to be used (for instance, I've heard there's a correlation between musical talent and programming ability). Those measures were better than nothing, but not better than a good measure. Edit, because I want to amplify on this a bit. In the absence of any other measure, I'm willing to believe that someone who's good at brain teasers is somewhat more likely to be a good programmer than someone who isn't (though the correlation isn't going to be perfect, by any means). The thing is that I can also believe that someone who's good at brain teasers is more likely to be a good surgeon or mechanic than someone who isn't. Yet we don't use this type of question when we're interviewing surgeons or mechanics. Why not?

endtime 12y ago
One possible answer to that question, presumably not the one you're thinking of, is that those jobs are largely mechanical and require less creativity or generalized problem-solving ability than software engineering. Edit: I don't mean to suggest that I think these kinds of questions are good for hiring software engineers, just that your argument for why that isn't the case may have some holes in it.

haliax 12y ago

Before World War 2 crypto was done by linguists, not mathematicians. A lot of the work was like solving cryptgrams. So a crossword puzzle was actually a pretty reasonable test.