How is "The welfare state has created a situation in which many are simply incapable of fending for themselves" not a statement against the welfare state? In a

How is "The welfare state has created a situation in which many are simply incapable of fending for themselves" not a statement against the welfare state? In any case, you're derailing the conversation, and my working hypothesis is that you want to talk about your feelings rather than put any interpretable numbers behind it. What is wrong with my analysis enough that it should be considered not "very useful here", which is what you stated. What is your objection?