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This bit of fear, uncertainty, and doubt was brought to you by the Institute For Armchair Psychonauts Who Never Use Drugs.
by anonbanker 12y ago
This bit of fear, uncertainty, and doubt was brought to you by the Institute For Armchair Psychonauts Who Never Use Drugs.
- lomnakkus 12y agoI'm sorry, I don't quite get what you're trying to say. Are you saying that using/taking drugs is a prerequisite for talking about drugs (and drug use in general)? If so: That's total nonsense and an unbelievably unscientific attitude.
- anonbanker 12y agoYeah, calling someone out on FUD is definitely unscientific. Thanks for that.
- lomnakkus 12y agoYou have yet to substantiate your claim of FUD. (And your claim of unfitness-to-comment, but I'll leave it at that.)
- anonbanker 12y agoYeah, definitely adding you to the list of astroturfers to look out for on every pro-drug HN thread. If we wanted the incorrect mainstream opinion, we'd go to the ONDCP's homepage.
- lomnakkus 12y agoSorry, what? (If you're going to claim astroturfing you're going to have to come up with some evidence. Look through my posting history -- you'll find none.) EDIT: Actually, scratch that. If you didn't already do that before accusing me of astroturfing, then fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
- anonbanker 12y agoOne does not need to be a sock puppet account to astroturf.
- lomnakkus 12y agoAgain, I'm mystified. Please state your case plainly. Whom, exactly, are you accusing of astroturfing? (I realize that this not necessarily contributing to NH as such, but I'm genuinely intrigued.)
- pyre 12y agoSo advice like this: > 4. Be skeptical, read the literature; understand the risks you are taking. is bad? Is the idea that we should turn off critical thought and blindly accept pro-LSD arguments, while blindly rejecting the anti-LSD arguments? That seems backwards.
- anonbanker 12y agoThat's right. Pretend the other three points not only didn't exist, but weren't directly contradictory to the point you quoted. But I'll be down voted to oblivion for calling you a propagandist for doing things that propagandists do. So this is me not calling you one.
- DanBC 12y agoYou are being downvoted for your ridiculously hostile tone.
- anonbanker 12y agoYeah, but you know the drill, I'm inviting the down votes. When I have conclusive data on what I'm working on here, you and Dang will definitely be the first to know. Either way, thank you for the commentary. There have been times I actually didn't understand the downvotes, and your posts were rather enlightening.
- DanBC 12y agoHang on: dang is an HN mod. I'm not. I'm just someone who comments too often.
- anonbanker 12y agoWhich is why I figured you'd be first to know. :-)
- jafaku 12y agoI'd say the first point is kind of important, considering it's a synthetic drug and not a plant. I have no anecdotes for LSD, but a few people died in my city after only a normal dose of ecstasy (no alcohol).
- pyre 12y agoTo be fair, I think that you are more likely to get a bad batch of a "party drug" like ecstacy than LSD. Though I can't really talk from experience here, it would seem (to me) that party drugs are more popular and would attract more people to cut corners to turn a quick buck.
- anonbanker 12y agoThis bit of fear, uncertainty and doubt is brought to you by The Society for Comparison of Apples and Oranges. Their motto: "but they're both fruit!"
- naturalrecursin 12y agoPure mdma would not kill anyone at a normal dose. Test your pills everyone!
- hajile 12y agoEcstacy is known to cause the body temperature to rise. People write it off as just being the club, alcohol, etc. For some people, the temperature becomes high enough to cause death. This doesn't have anything to do with drug purity and has everything to do with the effects of the drug itself.
- lappa 12y agoAre you proposing that one should do any drug without skepticism after reading a wired article about it?
- anonbanker 12y agoLemme know what part of my grandparent mentioned your straw man.
- lappa 12y agoLemme know what part of my statement was a strawman.
- anonbanker 12y agoThe part about doing any drug without skepticism. I'll wait.
- lappa 12y agoWhat about that is straw man? I don't think you have a full understanding of the fallacy. The wikipedia definition is "A straw man is a common type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on the misrepresentation of an opponent's argument." I haven't misrepresented your argument in any way since I haven't represented your argument in any way. I never claimed you claimed anything. It isn't fallacious to ask someone to clarify an argument. You didn't explicitly state your argument (or anything of substance), so I asked what you were actually trying to claim.
- anonbanker 12y agoYou van insult my post all you want, but you're blind if you honestly think your reply wasn't a misrepresentation of my original statement, unless you can prove that I said exactly what you said I did in the post before I pointed out the straw man. But you can't, so you won't.
- olefoo 12y agoYou are not even wrong.