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Zuck was right. Privacy is dead. There is no such thing anymore. No true democracy without a free vote. In the EU, we have to click 'agree to cookies' on ev

Zuck was right. Privacy is dead. There is no such thing anymore. No true democracy without a free vote. In the EU, we have to click 'agree to cookies' on every site whilst every newborn's DNA is stored digitally. They're mocking us. It is irreversible. The genie is out. It's over.

GunlogAlm 12y ago
> every newborn's DNA is stored digitally What?
- desdiv 12y ago
  He probably mixed up several facts: 1. This practice is not done anywhere in the EU AFAIK, only in the US. 2. Only the biological DNA sample is kept, not any digital version of it. It would obviously be cost-prohibitive to fully sequence the gnome of every single newborn baby. But other than that, he's right. DNA samples of every newborn baby in the US is indeed being kept by the government, indefinitely and without parental consent. https://www.aclu.org/free-speech-technology-and-liberty-womens-rights/newborn-dna-banking https://www.aclu.org/free-speech-technology-and-liberty-wome...
  - nthcolumn 12y ago
    Since when was cost a factor? Try storing everyones' phone calls! Each person can fit on a 750M CD. It may be true that they haven't gotten through sequencing them all yet. Genomics England and Illumina (US) are the contractors. PM David Cameron is particularly keen, recently gave them £300 million. He wants everyone tagged 'within a generation'. And yes you can all ignore me and downvote me because it makes no difference. UK, US, Australia all the same. With your DNA on file - you are an open book.
b6dy 12y ago
It's easy to hit the apathy button, but I think this is significantly more pessimistic than is warranted. "Zuck" made that statement as a person with significant financial interest, not as some wise Oracle. The statement is a general societal one, not a "will my IP address be logged" statement, which is a prediction that has fallen impressively flat on its face (as time passes much more of society is becoming privacy-aware, not less). And lastly, his purchasing of the houses surrounding his own shows he probably didn't believe it even then. > No true democracy without a free vote Who gives a shit, nothing is "true". Just push for democracy yourself and encourage others to do the same. > In the EU, we have to click 'agree to cookies' on every site whilst every newborn's DNA is stored digitally I wouldn't bet on either of these staying that way in 30 years time. > They're mocking us No they're not. Genuinely, most don't understand the issue, either technologically or socially. The ones you think are mocking you are either scared, looking after their own hind, or ideoligically think they're doing the right thing. No one has time to mock anyone. > It is irreversible. The genie is out. It's over. Completely ridiculous. Awareness will grow. Information is coming. Democracy will win out, even in the UK.
bigphishy 12y ago
Can I ignore this user?

GunlogAlm 12y ago

> every newborn's DNA is stored digitally What?

desdiv 12y ago
He probably mixed up several facts: 1. This practice is not done anywhere in the EU AFAIK, only in the US. 2. Only the biological DNA sample is kept, not any digital version of it. It would obviously be cost-prohibitive to fully sequence the gnome of every single newborn baby. But other than that, he's right. DNA samples of every newborn baby in the US is indeed being kept by the government, indefinitely and without parental consent. https://www.aclu.org/free-speech-technology-and-liberty-womens-rights/newborn-dna-banking https://www.aclu.org/free-speech-technology-and-liberty-wome...
- nthcolumn 12y ago
  Since when was cost a factor? Try storing everyones' phone calls! Each person can fit on a 750M CD. It may be true that they haven't gotten through sequencing them all yet. Genomics England and Illumina (US) are the contractors. PM David Cameron is particularly keen, recently gave them £300 million. He wants everyone tagged 'within a generation'. And yes you can all ignore me and downvote me because it makes no difference. UK, US, Australia all the same. With your DNA on file - you are an open book.

b6dy 12y ago

It's easy to hit the apathy button, but I think this is significantly more pessimistic than is warranted. "Zuck" made that statement as a person with significant financial interest, not as some wise Oracle. The statement is a general societal one, not a "will my IP address be logged" statement, which is a prediction that has fallen impressively flat on its face (as time passes much more of society is becoming privacy-aware, not less). And lastly, his purchasing of the houses surrounding his own shows he probably didn't believe it even then. > No true democracy without a free vote Who gives a shit, nothing is "true". Just push for democracy yourself and encourage others to do the same. > In the EU, we have to click 'agree to cookies' on every site whilst every newborn's DNA is stored digitally I wouldn't bet on either of these staying that way in 30 years time. > They're mocking us No they're not. Genuinely, most don't understand the issue, either technologically or socially. The ones you think are mocking you are either scared, looking after their own hind, or ideoligically think they're doing the right thing. No one has time to mock anyone. > It is irreversible. The genie is out. It's over. Completely ridiculous. Awareness will grow. Information is coming. Democracy will win out, even in the UK.

bigphishy 12y ago

Can I ignore this user?