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That's exactly what I have in mind. And it's entirely possible to do. That fact that it's slow and expensive is only an issue because it conflicts with YouTube

That's exactly what I have in mind. And it's entirely possible to do. That fact that it's slow and expensive is only an issue because it conflicts with YouTube's business model. Frankly, that's YouTube's problem.

Kalium 12y ago
It's a problem that derives from the complexity of copyright law. The result is that the only way to be certain renders user-generated content sites completely unworkable. If your intent is to have a chilling effect on free speech on the internet, requiring a huge and messy legal process to publish something is a good way to do it.
6stringmerc 12y ago
"In technology-land, it's unethical to not give companies the content they want on the terms they want. Because their service is the most important thing in the world. I know that sounds sarcastic, but it's actually how a lot of technology firms behave and speak." - Kalium's Argument, Paraphrased
- Kalium 12y ago
  I don't know any tech people or companies who believe that about their services. I know a lot of artists who do. Unscientific sample, obviously. I'm also not arguing that Zoe should accept what YouTube is offering. Just that YouTube isn't obligated to offer her want she wants. Tell you what. Want to start a company offering distribution services to artists on the terms they want? Sounds like your kind of thing. I'm sure artists, publishers, labels, and customers will all love it and shower it with money.
  - 6stringmerc 12y ago
    I already have one that I pay for out of my own pocket, it's called DistroKid, and it's wonderful. So, no, I'll stick to the business of creating things, sharpening my National Forensics League trained debate skills in forums such as this, and reminding myself that I do these from my soul. I gain absolutely nothing by engaging with you, other than heartache at the state of affairs in this world, but it comes from within and I choose to embrace who I am. I hope Zoe succeeds in whatever she does, and applaud her for trying, especially in the face of hostility such as yours.
    - Kalium 12y ago
      My heart also aches at the state of affairs in intellectual property law. It's a terrible system from top to bottom that serves mostly to suppress creativity. It badly needs to be re-engineered, but there are far too many vested interests to make that practical. I haven't thought back to Forensics in a very, very long time. Geez. If you think my attitude is hostility, then I submit that you could stand to benefit by reading my comments more carefully. EDIT: Also, DistroKid doesn't allow me to set my own terms. It doesn't look like what I proposed at all.
      - oldmanjay 12y ago
        I have a hard time understanding how the copyright system suppresses creativity considering we have available now more creative output, in a wider variety, conveniently available at reasonable prices including free, than has ever been the case before
        ee04 12y ago
        Part of that is the result of easier distribution, cheaper production, and more available leasure for classes able to do creation. How the copyright system influence this is (to my mind) uncertain. The system may be positive, or it may be negative. There isn't sufficient research nor natural experiments to know. I strongly suspect some level of copyright protection is positive, but there are too many variables to be able to be certain.

Kalium 12y ago

It's a problem that derives from the complexity of copyright law. The result is that the only way to be certain renders user-generated content sites completely unworkable. If your intent is to have a chilling effect on free speech on the internet, requiring a huge and messy legal process to publish something is a good way to do it.

6stringmerc 12y ago

"In technology-land, it's unethical to not give companies the content they want on the terms they want. Because their service is the most important thing in the world. I know that sounds sarcastic, but it's actually how a lot of technology firms behave and speak." - Kalium's Argument, Paraphrased

Kalium 12y ago
I don't know any tech people or companies who believe that about their services. I know a lot of artists who do. Unscientific sample, obviously. I'm also not arguing that Zoe should accept what YouTube is offering. Just that YouTube isn't obligated to offer her want she wants. Tell you what. Want to start a company offering distribution services to artists on the terms they want? Sounds like your kind of thing. I'm sure artists, publishers, labels, and customers will all love it and shower it with money.
- 6stringmerc 12y ago
  I already have one that I pay for out of my own pocket, it's called DistroKid, and it's wonderful. So, no, I'll stick to the business of creating things, sharpening my National Forensics League trained debate skills in forums such as this, and reminding myself that I do these from my soul. I gain absolutely nothing by engaging with you, other than heartache at the state of affairs in this world, but it comes from within and I choose to embrace who I am. I hope Zoe succeeds in whatever she does, and applaud her for trying, especially in the face of hostility such as yours.
  - Kalium 12y ago
    My heart also aches at the state of affairs in intellectual property law. It's a terrible system from top to bottom that serves mostly to suppress creativity. It badly needs to be re-engineered, but there are far too many vested interests to make that practical. I haven't thought back to Forensics in a very, very long time. Geez. If you think my attitude is hostility, then I submit that you could stand to benefit by reading my comments more carefully. EDIT: Also, DistroKid doesn't allow me to set my own terms. It doesn't look like what I proposed at all.
    - oldmanjay 12y ago
      I have a hard time understanding how the copyright system suppresses creativity considering we have available now more creative output, in a wider variety, conveniently available at reasonable prices including free, than has ever been the case before
      - ee04 12y ago
        Part of that is the result of easier distribution, cheaper production, and more available leasure for classes able to do creation. How the copyright system influence this is (to my mind) uncertain. The system may be positive, or it may be negative. There isn't sufficient research nor natural experiments to know. I strongly suspect some level of copyright protection is positive, but there are too many variables to be able to be certain.