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Here it is http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Vinod-Khosla-blames-costly-demands-for-Martins-5645423.php http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Vinod-Khosla-b

Here it is http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Vinod-Khosla-blames-costly-demands-for-Martins-5645423.php http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Vinod-Khosla-blames-co... "Khosla said he kept the beach open after the sale despite the $500,000 to $600,000 a year in costs for maintenance, liability insurance, infrastructure and other expenses. He said insurance alone was $30,000 a year, but he kept the beach open for two years even though he was losing money....Most of the beach has eroded away over the years and it is often dangerous, with sneaker waves and riptides, he said. He said only two or three people a day were visiting the beach and it was unreasonable to expect him to pay the costs to maintain public access....Khosla said he tried for three years to get a hearing with the Coastal Commission in an attempt to come up with a reasonable solution, but the organization refused."

mhomde 12y ago
Wait I'm confused, does he own the beach or just the gate which accesses the beach? And why is he responsible and needs to be insured for people using the beach, or maintain it? It feels like either you own the beach and can do whatever the heck you please, or you don't, and then it's not your dime nor your responsibility... PR nightmare though, anyone made a flash-game where you try to sneak upon Khosla's beach while being hunted by him and his security guards yet?
- mcphage 12y ago
  > does he own the beach or just the gate which accesses the beach? Just the gate. All beaches in CA are public property.
FireBeyond 12y ago
Yeah, this is disingenuous. No-one is requiring him to have liability insurance for beachgoers, and it'd be a pretty laughable attempt to sue him for any incident at the beach.
- tankenmate 12y ago
  The insurance is not likely for the surf side of the beach but for the area above high tide and the access to the beach.
  - FireBeyond 12y ago
    I think you'd have a fairly good case that you could not be held liable for for injury that occurred on an easement (actually, scratch that, I changed my mind and IANAL... given that an easement is non-possessive, you still own the property... but at what level are you required to make it safe?)
    - MrDom 12y ago
      I don't know the pertinent CA laws, but in NY you can be fined for not shoveling snow off of your sidewalk and you are required to keep the sidewalk in good repair. If the sidewalk is broken and somebody trips, you can get fined by the city and/or sued by the ankle breaker. If it needs to be replaced, you're expected to do it yourself with your own money or be fined.

mhomde 12y ago

Wait I'm confused, does he own the beach or just the gate which accesses the beach? And why is he responsible and needs to be insured for people using the beach, or maintain it? It feels like either you own the beach and can do whatever the heck you please, or you don't, and then it's not your dime nor your responsibility... PR nightmare though, anyone made a flash-game where you try to sneak upon Khosla's beach while being hunted by him and his security guards yet?

mcphage 12y ago
> does he own the beach or just the gate which accesses the beach? Just the gate. All beaches in CA are public property.

FireBeyond 12y ago

Yeah, this is disingenuous. No-one is requiring him to have liability insurance for beachgoers, and it'd be a pretty laughable attempt to sue him for any incident at the beach.

tankenmate 12y ago
The insurance is not likely for the surf side of the beach but for the area above high tide and the access to the beach.
- FireBeyond 12y ago
  I think you'd have a fairly good case that you could not be held liable for for injury that occurred on an easement (actually, scratch that, I changed my mind and IANAL... given that an easement is non-possessive, you still own the property... but at what level are you required to make it safe?)
  - MrDom 12y ago
    I don't know the pertinent CA laws, but in NY you can be fined for not shoveling snow off of your sidewalk and you are required to keep the sidewalk in good repair. If the sidewalk is broken and somebody trips, you can get fined by the city and/or sued by the ankle breaker. If it needs to be replaced, you're expected to do it yourself with your own money or be fined.