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An aside but I became curious when riot was mentioned two days in a row, first thing in the east-coast morning, submitted by the same author. While self-promot
by sisk 12y ago
An aside but I became curious when riot was mentioned two days in a row, first thing in the east-coast morning, submitted by the same author.
While self-promotion is a skill, the submitter's comment and submission history is painfully focused exclusively on their own work.
I can certainly appreciate being proud of the things you build—that's great—but it comes across as disingenuous when it is quite literally the only thing you contribute to the discussion.
- alexro 12y agoI don't think this is necessarily bad in this case. It's quite normal for busy people to focus on their work, many YC startup founders do the same. The first submission has caused quite a hot discussion, so submitting again the next day isn't overkill IMO.
- JLehtinen 12y agoWell Tero's fiercest opinions typically take the form of code :) Riot 2.0 was completed and submitted yesterday after lunch (Finland time), blog post was completed today at the same hour. We genuinely felt they were worth telling the world about and people seem to agree.
- tipiirai 12y agoThat's indeed the case. I basically code my own things and then release them as open source. jQuery Tools, Head JS and now Riot.js 2.0 to name the biggest contributions. HN is an unique place to get feedback for your own work. I certainly have opinions about others work as well but usually I keep my mouth shut and go back to work.
- sisk 12y agoHaving the confidence to release your projects as open-source is excellent and something I wish more people had. However—by your own description—HN is a place where you solicit feedback but can't be bothered to extend the same courtesy to your peers. Think of it like a conversation. If I approach you asking for feedback on my projects but never return the favor, does that not seem suspicious?
- woah 12y agoThere are more than enough people on HN providing huge amounts of feedback about everything they can at the slightest opportunity. I don't think that tipiirai's contributions are sorely missed.
- marrs 12y agoIn fairness, open sourcing a project is quite a big courtesy to begin with, and providing a website, support, documentation, etc is much more of a commitment than leaving a comment on HN.
- tipiirai 12y agoI tend to give feedback on a form of GitHub issue. It's more focused and the discussion doesn't explode. For my own projects I like to get all the rants as well. Gives a broader picture. I have a feeling that HN doesn't have a very strict etiquette.
- sisk 12y agoFair point. To be clear, I take nothing away from what you've done here: More tooling options are rarely—if ever—a bad thing and your presentation of riot is beautiful and clear, very well executed.
- JLehtinen 12y agoWe're Finns afterall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvidoBBJSRA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvidoBBJSRA
- alexro 12y agoI think you aren't being nice trying to teach him manners. Having others already upvoted this submission we can move over this 'incident', can we?