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This is not apples to apples. As soon as you apply the same ecosystem concepts (end points not owned and operated by the company) google has the exact same pro

This is not apples to apples. As soon as you apply the same ecosystem concepts (end points not owned and operated by the company) google has the exact same problems. Reminder: Silent closure of android bugs over the holidays. How many beers did the google pr team buy Dan Goodin? http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2qjkuf/someone_silently_closed_37_1952_of_android_bugs/ http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2qjkuf/someone_sile...

Grazester 12y ago
I don't see how that article made Google look particularly good. Maybe we read different articles. For whatever reason I just can't help but think 3 months was enough time for these bug to get fixed. Didn't Microsoft want Google to delay the announcement until their patch Tuesday when they usually release their updates? If an update is critical(which I guess wasn't) then why not push it before hand if you have it already?
- 100timesthis 12y ago
  patch Tuesday it's one of the best thing of Microsoft. It's predictable so so it's possible to schedule the patching in advance. The patch isn't something magic that appear in the system, large organization need to be sure the patch isn't interfering with their other processes.
  - Grazester 12y ago
    No large organisation do auto update so does it matter if say a critical patch is release so their IT department can test that right away and push it?
- droopybuns 12y ago
  Logistics and supply chain are real fields. Distributing updates that don't break one off oem combinations of hardware required testing? Apply your logic to android. The patches exist in AOSP. Why don't they get to the devices? If you don't own the servers that get the patch, your testing obligations are much higher. The Google team is indifferent to realities that they aren't exposed too. This behavior is childish and rude- and it isn't going to be the kind of behavior that the EU is going to look kindly on when they press their anti trust case.
  - Grazester 12y ago
    To be honest I dont even know why Google bothers search for bug. I would assume they do because they still have some systems running Microsoft software otherwise I would simply treat it as someone elses headache.
- serge2k 12y ago
  Every Windows based shop bases their scheduling around update Tuesday.
dcole2929 12y ago
this wasn't an apples to apples comparison at all. They actually laid out the differences between the two companies approach quite nicely, only to say oh well Google does it better. This despite the very real differences between the types of software each writes. I also especially like the off handed comment about the sorry state of Android patches which actually is an apples to apples comparison. Google is almost negligent in their ability to get bugs addressed in the various Android OS version. And while it's easy to blame the carriers and various device manufacturers, Microsoft seems to be doing ok with the same issues. But still Microsoft is bad and unreasonable

Grazester 12y ago

I don't see how that article made Google look particularly good. Maybe we read different articles. For whatever reason I just can't help but think 3 months was enough time for these bug to get fixed. Didn't Microsoft want Google to delay the announcement until their patch Tuesday when they usually release their updates? If an update is critical(which I guess wasn't) then why not push it before hand if you have it already?

100timesthis 12y ago
patch Tuesday it's one of the best thing of Microsoft. It's predictable so so it's possible to schedule the patching in advance. The patch isn't something magic that appear in the system, large organization need to be sure the patch isn't interfering with their other processes.
- Grazester 12y ago
  No large organisation do auto update so does it matter if say a critical patch is release so their IT department can test that right away and push it?
droopybuns 12y ago
Logistics and supply chain are real fields. Distributing updates that don't break one off oem combinations of hardware required testing? Apply your logic to android. The patches exist in AOSP. Why don't they get to the devices? If you don't own the servers that get the patch, your testing obligations are much higher. The Google team is indifferent to realities that they aren't exposed too. This behavior is childish and rude- and it isn't going to be the kind of behavior that the EU is going to look kindly on when they press their anti trust case.
- Grazester 12y ago
  To be honest I dont even know why Google bothers search for bug. I would assume they do because they still have some systems running Microsoft software otherwise I would simply treat it as someone elses headache.
serge2k 12y ago
Every Windows based shop bases their scheduling around update Tuesday.

dcole2929 12y ago

this wasn't an apples to apples comparison at all. They actually laid out the differences between the two companies approach quite nicely, only to say oh well Google does it better. This despite the very real differences between the types of software each writes. I also especially like the off handed comment about the sorry state of Android patches which actually is an apples to apples comparison. Google is almost negligent in their ability to get bugs addressed in the various Android OS version. And while it's easy to blame the carriers and various device manufacturers, Microsoft seems to be doing ok with the same issues. But still Microsoft is bad and unreasonable