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It must be awesome for the KDE developers to have such appreciative users with such constructive attitudes. It really makes you wonder why so many people who vo

by mwfunk 12y ago

It must be awesome for the KDE developers to have such appreciative users with such constructive attitudes. It really makes you wonder why so many people who volunteer on open source projects get burned out on it after a while, or why so many mailing lists/forums/etc. for those projects have a unfortunate tendency to devolve into flamewars, bikeshedding, whining, and everyone crapping on everyone else for no particular reason. Hooray for human nature, huh?

shmerl 12y ago
Never saw any flamewars on KDE forums. Users there are very helpful.
bmn_ 12y ago
I write software professionally and can't afford hobbyist conduct. I have all right to be pissed, era v4 ruined KDE's promise of full customisability. I assure you the KDE devs don't care what anyone says, they just do what they want, not what the users want. Source: I've been at Desktop Summit (incidentally, that's where the v5 library reorganisation was announced that's just now bearing fruit). The keynote speaker was ripping the devs a new one over that attitude not listening to users; apparently that went into one ear and out of the other.
- jensreuterberg 12y ago
  Yeah as someone who works with the KDE and Plasma Devs - I can tell you that you're wrong... but [prediction of the future coming]: you won't care anyway. Which is ok, dear bmn_1! You get to be ... I guess "upset" about something that happened 6 years ago! You get to post about how horrible it is that no one listens to you (you, a professional programmer and all!)! It's fine, it really is. You know what I can't afford? This shit. Now I don't mind (really you're SO right there its really into one ear and out the other) because I'm a big boy and been doing this for years and years. I don't know about the programmers but for designers and especially designers in open source and ESPECIALLY-especially young designers testing the waters in open source, honing their skills and learning how to work in a team - my advice will always be "Do the opposite of what that guy wants". You're probably a lovely person. I bet you nurture little animals back to health and is a ton of fun socially going out for pints - in another world we could have been friends. But here - in this setting - with all your wounded pride leaking out of every sentence and word, with your "I big professional! You listen!" chest thumping and your make-belief truth you spun out of overhearing a keynote... you're one of the many things wrong with open source today.
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by mwfunk 12y ago

shmerl 12y ago

Never saw any flamewars on KDE forums. Users there are very helpful.

bmn_ 12y ago

I write software professionally and can't afford hobbyist conduct. I have all right to be pissed, era v4 ruined KDE's promise of full customisability. I assure you the KDE devs don't care what anyone says, they just do what they want, not what the users want. Source: I've been at Desktop Summit (incidentally, that's where the v5 library reorganisation was announced that's just now bearing fruit). The keynote speaker was ripping the devs a new one over that attitude not listening to users; apparently that went into one ear and out of the other.

jensreuterberg 12y ago
Yeah as someone who works with the KDE and Plasma Devs - I can tell you that you're wrong... but [prediction of the future coming]: you won't care anyway. Which is ok, dear bmn_1! You get to be ... I guess "upset" about something that happened 6 years ago! You get to post about how horrible it is that no one listens to you (you, a professional programmer and all!)! It's fine, it really is. You know what I can't afford? This shit. Now I don't mind (really you're SO right there its really into one ear and out the other) because I'm a big boy and been doing this for years and years. I don't know about the programmers but for designers and especially designers in open source and ESPECIALLY-especially young designers testing the waters in open source, honing their skills and learning how to work in a team - my advice will always be "Do the opposite of what that guy wants". You're probably a lovely person. I bet you nurture little animals back to health and is a ton of fun socially going out for pints - in another world we could have been friends. But here - in this setting - with all your wounded pride leaking out of every sentence and word, with your "I big professional! You listen!" chest thumping and your make-belief truth you spun out of overhearing a keynote... you're one of the many things wrong with open source today.
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