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maybe we don't want to end up like this chick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvtnS8wXBi8&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvtnS8wXBi8&fea

maybe we don't want to end up like this chick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvtnS8wXBi8&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvtnS8wXBi8&feature=playe... and we're tired of propagandists

aarongough 17y ago
Out of all the people that received the flu vaccine, how many had reactions this severe? I'll guarantee you that it was less than would have otherwise had severe reactions to the flu virus itself... Everything comes with a risk. If there is a problem here then it's the the average person does not make the effort to make that they are aware of the risks that they are taking.
- iterationx 17y ago
  yeah how are you going to guarantee that?
  - aarongough 17y ago
    By abasing myself before the community if I am proved to be incorrect. Would that be deemed sufficient? Bring the evidence.
  - nollidge 17y ago
    By noticing that the number of reactions to the vaccine comes nowhere close to the number of cases of H1N1. The woman from the video has, I presume (did not watch the video, as I'm at work), suffered an extreme reaction, and that is indeed incredibly unfortunate, but I'd wager it's also incredibly rare. Both the magnitude and the odds of any drawbacks must be considered. We human creatures are very prone to emotional reactions to such anecdotes, but we are making poor use of our invaluable rational minds if we don't try to overcome that.
nollidge 17y ago
Surely you can see the irony in those two statements put together?
- iterationx 17y ago
  There is no irony. I am tired of government propagandists. I don't want to end up like that chick. I sure hope you put your money where your mouth is and take the vaccine.
  - nollidge 17y ago
    Already got the seasonal flu one, three weeks ago, along with several million other people. So put YOUR money where your mouth is, and show some evidence that more than a miniscule percentage of the vaccinated had that sort of reaction. Otherwise the irony stands.
    - iterationx 17y ago
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-ja...

aarongough 17y ago

Out of all the people that received the flu vaccine, how many had reactions this severe? I'll guarantee you that it was less than would have otherwise had severe reactions to the flu virus itself... Everything comes with a risk. If there is a problem here then it's the the average person does not make the effort to make that they are aware of the risks that they are taking.

iterationx 17y ago
yeah how are you going to guarantee that?
- aarongough 17y ago
  By abasing myself before the community if I am proved to be incorrect. Would that be deemed sufficient? Bring the evidence.
- nollidge 17y ago
  By noticing that the number of reactions to the vaccine comes nowhere close to the number of cases of H1N1. The woman from the video has, I presume (did not watch the video, as I'm at work), suffered an extreme reaction, and that is indeed incredibly unfortunate, but I'd wager it's also incredibly rare. Both the magnitude and the odds of any drawbacks must be considered. We human creatures are very prone to emotional reactions to such anecdotes, but we are making poor use of our invaluable rational minds if we don't try to overcome that.

nollidge 17y ago

Surely you can see the irony in those two statements put together?

iterationx 17y ago
There is no irony. I am tired of government propagandists. I don't want to end up like that chick. I sure hope you put your money where your mouth is and take the vaccine.
- nollidge 17y ago
  Already got the seasonal flu one, three weeks ago, along with several million other people. So put YOUR money where your mouth is, and show some evidence that more than a miniscule percentage of the vaccinated had that sort of reaction. Otherwise the irony stands.
  - iterationx 17y ago
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-ja...