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No, I believe I am misunderstood. I am talking about a WEBSITE - NOT A WEB APPLICATION I tried to denote this by using the words "static site". Clearly, I hav

by auston 17y ago

No, I believe I am misunderstood. I am talking about a WEBSITE - NOT A WEB APPLICATION I tried to denote this by using the words "static site". Clearly, I have failed. Also, for the record: I have built a few multi-page sites (not applications) in 1-2 weeks with NO all nighters (i.e. leadlogsys.com).

thaumaturgy 17y ago
One of my from-hell projects that tanked -- and caused me to be nodding my head at this article -- was a website for a company that wanted around 75 existing pages re-designed into one of five or six different templates, all built into TextPattern, which didn't really support the two-column system that they wanted to use. That wasn't a web application, that was a website. And six months would have been an accurate development timeline for it, if it was done right.
- auston 17y ago
  Perhaps - I guess I need to provide my definition of a website: No more than 10 well structured, well thought out pages.
  - derefr 17y ago
    I don't believe anyone else is using that definition. The New York Times has what is a good example of a website.
    - auston 17y ago
      Actually, I believe that is a series of small applications integrated into a CMS... Which would take me YEARS to build
      - scott_s 17y ago
        And I call it a website: I click on links and read stuff. edit: Perhaps you should look at their portfolio to understand what they do, and what their definition of "website" is: http://www.happycog.com/design/ http://www.happycog.com/design/
        auston 17y ago
        thanks for the work - their depth / quality of work is much different than what I am used to (which is blogs AND sales sites for applications)
- fnid 17y ago
  if it was done right and thoughtfully and thoroughly These really sound like a "No True Scotsman" arguments. I, and I'm sure several others here, have completed lots of different systems in less than 5 or 6 months. If you use the right tools and you are highly skilled in your trade, you can do lots of things really quickly. To brush off expedient work by "it wasn't done right" or "it wasn't thoughtfully or thoroughly done" is a logical fallacy. All of the projects I have completed in 3-4 week time frames were loved by the clients and they are still fully functional and operating smoothly to this day. I'm including website and web application in my definition, including content management, inventory management, custom CRM with lots of reports, excel download, custom queries, messaging, drop down menus, email notifications, online stores and more. Sites driven by databases with 20+ tables, thousands of items of inventory, multiple warehouses, order management, the whole shebang. Yes, it can be done and the client can be happy and it can be thoughtful and thoroughly completed.

by auston 17y ago

thaumaturgy 17y ago

One of my from-hell projects that tanked -- and caused me to be nodding my head at this article -- was a website for a company that wanted around 75 existing pages re-designed into one of five or six different templates, all built into TextPattern, which didn't really support the two-column system that they wanted to use. That wasn't a web application, that was a website. And six months would have been an accurate development timeline for it, if it was done right.

auston 17y ago
Perhaps - I guess I need to provide my definition of a website: No more than 10 well structured, well thought out pages.
- derefr 17y ago
  I don't believe anyone else is using that definition. The New York Times has what is a good example of a website.
  - auston 17y ago
    Actually, I believe that is a series of small applications integrated into a CMS... Which would take me YEARS to build
    - scott_s 17y ago
      And I call it a website: I click on links and read stuff. edit: Perhaps you should look at their portfolio to understand what they do, and what their definition of "website" is: http://www.happycog.com/design/ http://www.happycog.com/design/
      - auston 17y ago
        thanks for the work - their depth / quality of work is much different than what I am used to (which is blogs AND sales sites for applications)
fnid 17y ago
if it was done right and thoughtfully and thoroughly These really sound like a "No True Scotsman" arguments. I, and I'm sure several others here, have completed lots of different systems in less than 5 or 6 months. If you use the right tools and you are highly skilled in your trade, you can do lots of things really quickly. To brush off expedient work by "it wasn't done right" or "it wasn't thoughtfully or thoroughly done" is a logical fallacy. All of the projects I have completed in 3-4 week time frames were loved by the clients and they are still fully functional and operating smoothly to this day. I'm including website and web application in my definition, including content management, inventory management, custom CRM with lots of reports, excel download, custom queries, messaging, drop down menus, email notifications, online stores and more. Sites driven by databases with 20+ tables, thousands of items of inventory, multiple warehouses, order management, the whole shebang. Yes, it can be done and the client can be happy and it can be thoughtful and thoroughly completed.