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What sort of use case is this for? The demos talked about in the article seem rather specific. I don't see how this will appeal to mass consumers.

by fenaer 12y ago

josephpmay 12y ago
Ten years ago, I would have said the same thing about a consumer smartphone.
- deleted 12y ago
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- pconner 12y ago
  Both portable cell phones and PDAs existed 10 years ago. The smartphone was a logical extension of those paradigms. AR Glasses (for lack of a better term) are still very young.
- icebraining 12y ago
  Ten years ago, HTC had phones with touchscreen, WiFi, camera, installable apps and miniSD support.
bentcorner 12y ago
I'd imagine that the target is a replacement of the PC. You could (theoretically) have the same utility as a PC with a wireless keyboard/mouse paired with the headset. On top of that is all the holographic applications that will be figured out.
- frevd 12y ago
  Virtual, not wireless ;) Think this - size-adjustable holo keyboard, ergonomic natural of course.
  - randyrand 12y ago
    For any serious work (coding), I'd still greatly rather use a laptop with a real keyboard.
    - hunterloftis 12y ago
      Why the laptop? With the AR overlay you just need a keyboard.
sdenton4 12y ago
Remember the cat-petting game that was the first demo for the Kinect?
devindotcom 12y ago
Couple things that spring to mind: -working in restricted spaces like planes -shared gaming worlds -CAD/architecture/3d sculpting at 'real' size -virtual help (wired gives example of remote help with electrics) -home improvement (virtual paint/furniture) -weirdo ghost in the shell style window management
nogridbag 12y ago
One general HUD use case I think would be beneficial is a driving aid: pedestrian and vehicle detection (or in rural areas animal detection). Whether the HUD is goggles or projected onto the windshield the extra data would be useful when driving. Automatic braking systems are great and all, but if you can see a deer on the side of the road in the distance via a HUD at night you can slow down well in advance (whereas the automatic braking system would engage when the deer crosses the road).
- Phlarp 12y ago
  I would want to see more than a couple of independent tests verifying this is actually safer before it were allowed on roads. I can see the potential benefits but there are enough terrible drivers already without introducing more distractions.
glenk 12y ago
Think about the holodeck from star trek. From an entertainment standpoint, you could immerse yourself in another world and solve a mystery. You could also learn all sorts of stuff with live instructions while working with physical tools when doing things like woodworking or electrical work etc.
debacle 12y ago
Porn. The first use case is always porn. And it seems like a pretty good use case here.
- frevd 12y ago
  Tactile feedback is crucial here.
  - urbannomad 12y ago
    "Holographic" live shows may be where it shines.
VLM 12y ago
The tech is cool. The UI as described is for campy unergonomic noobs, only. "he is trying to see Project HoloLens as if for the first time" This is a rather significant problem when talking about the real world as per the article. Consider the electrician discussion in the article. Real electricians want / need / expect real tools, not noob friendly fisher price toys. Its a tool for camp. As wikipedia says "based on deliberate and self-acknowledged theatricality." And camp doesn't appeal to everyone, all the time. If they were making a UI based on camp in a cultural era of camp ascendance, lets say the late 60s, early 70s in the USA, then this would be a win, it would be "groovy", it would be "boss". But... it isn't. Another way to describe it is ergonomic problems. I'm used to expressing myself, however poorly, staccato finger gestures at 104 keys at a desk at 100+ WPM. Any failure is a failure of my own creativity, not the user interface of my keyboard, which seems fairly capable in better hands... Now I must downshift and do interpretive dance, or gang hand symbols to communicate. No, I think not. Aside from gorilla arms problems limiting duration and comfort (no 12 hour shifts at the computer, for better or worse). And the speech interface limits it to quiet home use, while alone. The optical technology sounds incredibly impressive, I'd love to play Minecraft wearing it. Or Forza, or a zillion other games. Its just the UI that sounds truly awful.
- lotso 12y ago
  Think long-term... better voice interfaces, brain-computer interface. This isn't the end-game. It's going to be slightly weird, but the potential is there.

What sort of use case is this for? The demos talked about in the article seem rather specific. I don't see how this will appeal to mass consumers.

by fenaer 12y ago

What sort of use case is this for? The demos talked about in the article seem rather specific. I don't see how this will appeal to mass consumers.

josephpmay 12y ago

Ten years ago, I would have said the same thing about a consumer smartphone.

deleted 12y ago
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pconner 12y ago
Both portable cell phones and PDAs existed 10 years ago. The smartphone was a logical extension of those paradigms. AR Glasses (for lack of a better term) are still very young.
icebraining 12y ago
Ten years ago, HTC had phones with touchscreen, WiFi, camera, installable apps and miniSD support.

bentcorner 12y ago

I'd imagine that the target is a replacement of the PC. You could (theoretically) have the same utility as a PC with a wireless keyboard/mouse paired with the headset. On top of that is all the holographic applications that will be figured out.

frevd 12y ago
Virtual, not wireless ;) Think this - size-adjustable holo keyboard, ergonomic natural of course.
- randyrand 12y ago
  For any serious work (coding), I'd still greatly rather use a laptop with a real keyboard.
  - hunterloftis 12y ago
    Why the laptop? With the AR overlay you just need a keyboard.

sdenton4 12y ago

Remember the cat-petting game that was the first demo for the Kinect?

devindotcom 12y ago

Couple things that spring to mind: -working in restricted spaces like planes -shared gaming worlds -CAD/architecture/3d sculpting at 'real' size -virtual help (wired gives example of remote help with electrics) -home improvement (virtual paint/furniture) -weirdo ghost in the shell style window management

nogridbag 12y ago

One general HUD use case I think would be beneficial is a driving aid: pedestrian and vehicle detection (or in rural areas animal detection). Whether the HUD is goggles or projected onto the windshield the extra data would be useful when driving. Automatic braking systems are great and all, but if you can see a deer on the side of the road in the distance via a HUD at night you can slow down well in advance (whereas the automatic braking system would engage when the deer crosses the road).

Phlarp 12y ago
I would want to see more than a couple of independent tests verifying this is actually safer before it were allowed on roads. I can see the potential benefits but there are enough terrible drivers already without introducing more distractions.

glenk 12y ago

Think about the holodeck from star trek. From an entertainment standpoint, you could immerse yourself in another world and solve a mystery. You could also learn all sorts of stuff with live instructions while working with physical tools when doing things like woodworking or electrical work etc.

debacle 12y ago

Porn. The first use case is always porn. And it seems like a pretty good use case here.

frevd 12y ago
Tactile feedback is crucial here.
- urbannomad 12y ago
  "Holographic" live shows may be where it shines.

VLM 12y ago

The tech is cool. The UI as described is for campy unergonomic noobs, only. "he is trying to see Project HoloLens as if for the first time" This is a rather significant problem when talking about the real world as per the article. Consider the electrician discussion in the article. Real electricians want / need / expect real tools, not noob friendly fisher price toys. Its a tool for camp. As wikipedia says "based on deliberate and self-acknowledged theatricality." And camp doesn't appeal to everyone, all the time. If they were making a UI based on camp in a cultural era of camp ascendance, lets say the late 60s, early 70s in the USA, then this would be a win, it would be "groovy", it would be "boss". But... it isn't. Another way to describe it is ergonomic problems. I'm used to expressing myself, however poorly, staccato finger gestures at 104 keys at a desk at 100+ WPM. Any failure is a failure of my own creativity, not the user interface of my keyboard, which seems fairly capable in better hands... Now I must downshift and do interpretive dance, or gang hand symbols to communicate. No, I think not. Aside from gorilla arms problems limiting duration and comfort (no 12 hour shifts at the computer, for better or worse). And the speech interface limits it to quiet home use, while alone. The optical technology sounds incredibly impressive, I'd love to play Minecraft wearing it. Or Forza, or a zillion other games. Its just the UI that sounds truly awful.

lotso 12y ago
Think long-term... better voice interfaces, brain-computer interface. This isn't the end-game. It's going to be slightly weird, but the potential is there.