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The official reason was along the lines of "I don't want to host another Project Chanology," but it probably had more to do with the fact that moot was closely
by ANTSANTS 12y ago
The official reason was along the lines of "I don't want to host another Project Chanology," but it probably had more to do with the fact that moot was closely involved with at least one Gawker Media employee[1] and spoke at XOXO[2] alongside numerous companies and organizations that the Gamergate movement is adversarial towards.
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2gvtrp/ https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2gvtrp/
[2] http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/833450-gamergate http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/833450-gamergate
EDIT: Downvote all you like. I'm not making any judgement pro or anti Gamergate in this post, I'm just pointing out a rather large conflict of interest.
- devindotcom 12y agoThat's not what conflict of interest means
- Uhhrrr 12y agoThe journalist involved in the initial scandal worked for Kotaku, a Gawker site.
- devindotcom 12y agothere was no "initial scandal"
- ossreality 12y agoLol this thread getting astroturfed hard. "It's about ethics in Zoe Quinn's pants". Fucking gamergate losers. Grow the fuck up you petulant children.
- Uhhrrr 12y agoThe initial scandal was that Nathan Grayson had been friends with the relatively unknown developer of Depression Quest for a long time, to the point of getting thanked in the credits of the game. He then plugged it, here: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/01/08/admission-quest-valve-greenlights-50-more-games/ http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/01/08/admission-quest-v... And also covered her here: http://tmi.kotaku.com/the-indie-game-reality-tv-show-that-went-to-hell-1555599284 http://tmi.kotaku.com/the-indie-game-reality-tv-show-that-we... ...without disclosing the relationship. Which could have been resolved with a simple apology and adding disclosure to the articles, but several major game sites instead responded with such a storm of ridiculous charges that game journalism was instantly sullied even more than it already was. Because of this, GamerGate has been poorly covered in most game sites and rags like TechCrunch, so it's not surprising that you hadn't heard of this.
- smasuch 12y agoThe initial scandal was Zoe Quinn's ex posting a long rambling screed about his breakup, designed to get people to attack her. http://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-man-who-sparked-gamergate-regrets-the-harassment-but-say#.piLPwA4q2 http://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-man-who-sparked-...
- Uhhrrr 12y agoDirect link: https://thezoepost.wordpress.com/ https://thezoepost.wordpress.com/ Yes, this is what first implicated Grayson. I'd say its primary purpose was to get people to avoid her, but any interested parties can read the whole thing.
- devindotcom 12y agoExactly: no scandal.
- pervycreeper 12y agoDr. Greg Lisby on this topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_lzjvu24a8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_lzjvu24a8 Very clearly what occurred was a major violation of ethics.
- Uhhrrr 12y agoI would say not disclosing something that's clearly a potential conflict of interest is scandalous. That Devin, a writer for TechCrunch disagrees is... interesting. Illustrative.
- devindotcom 12y agoI'm glad my position has been instructive!
- ANTSANTS 12y agoIt's pretty sad how all it took was time and a thin coat of feminist paint for HN to forget how corrupt and morally bankrupt these clickbait "journalists" are. http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2012/02/13/hit-men-click-whores-and-paid-apologists-welcome-to-the-silicon-cesspool/ http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2012/02/13/hit-men-click-wh... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3587730 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3587730
- MrDom 12y agoI don't know why this is downvoted. Moot is involved with somebody at Gawker Media. If he is getting social pressure about "sexist" or "misogynistic" content, like pervycreeper claims, it's not out of line to suggest she could be a huge influence on his behavior.
- devindotcom 12y agoWhat's weird about the idea that he would have a friend in the online publishing community with shared views on a controversial topic?
- MrDom 12y agoWhat's weird about the idea that somebody you're sleeping with could affect your judgement?
- devindotcom 12y agoIt's naive and presumptuous. Have it your way, though.
- BgSpnnrs 12y agoThere's nothing naive and presumptuous about it in the least, it's an ethical violation that wouldn't fly by most professional standards and there are vast tracts of legal obligations most people adhere to which define those boundaries, no matter what a small group of hacks suppose. fortunately the more responsible publications have already updated their policies and looked inwardly to prevent fucking up so publicly and obviously again. (We can hope at the least they won't soapbox to their readership that they are assholes for calling them out!).
- devindotcom 12y agoIt really isn't anything like what you describe, BgSpnners. You're deeply mistaken. That's as far as I care to pursue it.