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Most pre-Series A start-ups will offer (far) below market salary; they have to, since, generally (and as another poster said), they have only $X00,000 in the ba
by Dalkanon 12y ago
Most pre-Series A start-ups will offer (far) below market salary; they have to, since, generally (and as another poster said), they have only $X00,000 in the bank and no revenue. This is pretty typical.
What the 0.05% equity package indicates is that the founders probably have an unrealistic expectation about how much their venture is worth at this stage. I've seen this a few times in naïve, young (23-25 years old) first-time founders that don't have significant amounts of experience working in start-ups and/or technology in general. This trivial amount of equity is a huge red flag, not only because its present value is negligible (guess what the risk-adjusted rate of return is on a start-up run by first-time founders?), but because it indicates that the work environment will likely be unpleasant (hellish hours, frequently changing requirements, no clear vision -- common in companies run by first-time founders).
Also, keep in mind: if these founders are foolish / naïve enough to think they'll be able to hire a credible, valuable engineer with this package (they won't), they're also likely foolish / naïve to get screwed by their investors. Founders are only at the bottom-middle of the start-up hierarchy: VCs are above them and LPs are above them.
- beat 12y agoProbably the same founders who are on Quora, asking why their programmers won't work 80 hour weeks.
- thebiglebrewski 12y agoCan you link me to some of these so I can laugh?
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- brosky117 12y agohttp://www.quora.com/How-do-you-make-programmers-work-60-80-hours-per-week http://www.quora.com/How-do-you-make-programmers-work-60-80-... http://www.quora.com/How-can-you-inspire-programmers-to-work-longer-work-weeks-voluntarily http://www.quora.com/How-can-you-inspire-programmers-to-work...
- thebiglebrewski 12y agoAhahah thank you!
- mooreds 12y agoYes, thank you. The questions are naive, but the answers do restore my faith in humanity.
- S4M 12y agoI saw those questions before, and I honestly wondered if the people asking them were really stupid or just trolling.