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I haven't even tried the thing itself, but your website already turned me off. Now, i realize you most likely didn't realize this yourself, since Opera ASA inte

I haven't even tried the thing itself, but your website already turned me off. Now, i realize you most likely didn't realize this yourself, since Opera ASA intentionally seeded a lot of confusion and fucked over their original userbase, but please: When you say "Opera", make it clear that you mean "Opera 15+", since Opera 15 and upwards are completely different software packages than Opera 12, share no code whatsoever, and are in fact just Chromium clones with some amount of reskinning and less than 1% of the original features of Opera 12 added.

SeanAnderson 12y ago
I'm aware that Opera wasn't running on the Webkit browser before... but they shifted to WebKit several years ago. How many years have to pass before you'd find it acceptable to start assuming new software is for the new stuff? The website's meh. It was quickly bootstrapped, but I'd rather focus on delivering a quality product than quality marketing. There's only so many hours in each day and many of the installs come from the Chrome Web Store itself rather than through my landing page.
- Mithaldu 12y ago
  > How many years have to pass before you'd find it acceptable to start assuming new software is for the new stuff? It's not about the time passed, it's entirely about the usability. They didn't shift to webkit. They didn't just change the engine. They threw away literally all they had, fired most of their development staff, took a stock chromium, and started building new stuff on top of that, at a glacial pace. So far they've managed to add only an utter miniscule amount of the hundreds of features found in 12, and from what they've communicated, much will never make it into the new codebase because they don't care, or because the features are impossible to implement in Chromium. > How many years have to pass before you'd find it acceptable to start assuming new software is for the new stuff? I wasn't asking for an overhaul, only for 4 added characters: " 15+" English isn't my primary language, so: Was i unclear about that? And lastly, some feedback on the plugin itself: It's quite nice, and i like the quality of life thing of having it available from any page. However as far as i can tell there's no way to add existing youtube playlists to it wholesale, and if i have to add every video manually, i'd rather stick to bare youtube. Did i overlook something?
  - SeanAnderson 12y ago
    Heya, sorry for the delay. I got swamped with messages :( I suppose your points about Opera are fair. It's just that even the Opera team made it very clear to me that I should only be providing screenshots using the newer version of Opera. I figured that the old version was all but dead, so why mention it? That said, I'll throw it in on future publications + add it to the website when the user is browsing w/ Opera. You can import playlists by going opening the left-side panel, clicking 'Create Playlist' and then copy/pasting a YouTube URL into the 2nd input which says 'URL'. However, I've come to learn that this is totally not intuitive from the number of times I've had to answer that in the past few days. I've logged a GitHub issue to rework it and make it more intuitive and obvious. Sorry about that.

SeanAnderson 12y ago

I'm aware that Opera wasn't running on the Webkit browser before... but they shifted to WebKit several years ago. How many years have to pass before you'd find it acceptable to start assuming new software is for the new stuff? The website's meh. It was quickly bootstrapped, but I'd rather focus on delivering a quality product than quality marketing. There's only so many hours in each day and many of the installs come from the Chrome Web Store itself rather than through my landing page.

Mithaldu 12y ago
> How many years have to pass before you'd find it acceptable to start assuming new software is for the new stuff? It's not about the time passed, it's entirely about the usability. They didn't shift to webkit. They didn't just change the engine. They threw away literally all they had, fired most of their development staff, took a stock chromium, and started building new stuff on top of that, at a glacial pace. So far they've managed to add only an utter miniscule amount of the hundreds of features found in 12, and from what they've communicated, much will never make it into the new codebase because they don't care, or because the features are impossible to implement in Chromium. > How many years have to pass before you'd find it acceptable to start assuming new software is for the new stuff? I wasn't asking for an overhaul, only for 4 added characters: " 15+" English isn't my primary language, so: Was i unclear about that? And lastly, some feedback on the plugin itself: It's quite nice, and i like the quality of life thing of having it available from any page. However as far as i can tell there's no way to add existing youtube playlists to it wholesale, and if i have to add every video manually, i'd rather stick to bare youtube. Did i overlook something?
- SeanAnderson 12y ago
  Heya, sorry for the delay. I got swamped with messages :( I suppose your points about Opera are fair. It's just that even the Opera team made it very clear to me that I should only be providing screenshots using the newer version of Opera. I figured that the old version was all but dead, so why mention it? That said, I'll throw it in on future publications + add it to the website when the user is browsing w/ Opera. You can import playlists by going opening the left-side panel, clicking 'Create Playlist' and then copy/pasting a YouTube URL into the 2nd input which says 'URL'. However, I've come to learn that this is totally not intuitive from the number of times I've had to answer that in the past few days. I've logged a GitHub issue to rework it and make it more intuitive and obvious. Sorry about that.