A layman's definition would be along the lines of that if you keep taking 2 objects from a collection of objects (e.g. apples), the smallest number you end up w

A layman's definition would be along the lines of that if you keep taking 2 objects from a collection of objects (e.g. apples), the smallest number you end up with is 2. Ummm I get 0. It surely depends on whether the layman makes a logic choice about his ability to remove the final 2 apples. EDIT: by the way the other flaw in that example is you need a definition of "even" to start with; otherwise you could begin with 9 apples. :D